[Wittrs] Re: I Experience in Ordinary Language

  • From: Gordon Swobe <gts_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:57:01 -0800 (PST)

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Joseph Polanik <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> hello, Gordon. welcome to the list.


> perhaps you would care to comment on this interesting quote
> from your favorite philosopher:
> "Conscious states exist only when they are experienced by
> some human or animal subject. in that sense, they are essentially
> subjective. I used to treat subjectivity and qualitativeness as distinct
> features, but now it seems to me that properly understood, 
> qualitativeness implies subjectivity, because in order for there to be a
> qualitative feel to some event, there must be some subject that 
> experiences the event. no subjectivity, no experience." [Searle. 
> Consciousness and Language. p. 40]

I don't have that book in front of me and so I don't know the context, but I 
suspect Searle wants here to make a point that qualia, as such, do not exist. 
Searle sees only qualities of a unified field of consciousness.  



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