SWM wrote: >Joseph Polanik wrote: >>OTOH, if you take the position that properties are not reducible to >>the substance of which they are a property, then the relevant >>questions are 'how many fundamentally different property sets are >>there' and 'how many substances are invoked to explain having that >>many property sets'. >I think you over intellectualize this kind of thing I prefer a taxonomy that recognizes more nuances in the philosophical landscape than your taxonomy (every philosophical position on the experience/brain relation is either a dualism of ontological basicness or it's not dualism at all). >>S1/P1 - substance monism / property monism - reductive physicalists >>and eliminative materialists here - Dennett and Searle (according to >>Searle) - also panpsychists >Searle, of course, peels off subjectness from the rest of the universe >by asserting that it has a "first person ontology" which cannot be >dealt with in a third person way. But what does that mean, finally? according to you, it means that Searle is a Cartesian dualist, an interactive substance dualist. >I think Searle's approach is confused. as do others. my opinion is that Searle's philosophy is either internally inconsistent or incoherently articulated or both. I agree with you that both Dennett and Searle "seem to embrace the physicalist view of the universe"; but, in my view, such an assessment makes Searle a substance monist. obviously, you disagree; but, I am not convinced that (once the inconsistencies in Searle's position are resolved) he would appear to be an interactive substance dualist. much more responsible is Chalmers' conclusion: "Searle [1992] admits the logical possibility of zombie, and in fact holds that there is merely a causal connection between the microphysical and conscious experience, so he is perhaps best seen as a property dualist." [Chalmers. _The Conscious Mind_ p. 376] {Searle 1992 is Rediscovery of the Mind} if Chalmers is right, then Searle is in class S1/P2: substance monism (physicalism) and property dualism. Joe -- Nothing Unreal is Self-Aware @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ http://what-am-i.net @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ ========================================== Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/