[Wittrs] Re: Consciousness, QM and the Vacuous Question

  • From: "BruceD" <blroadies@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:05:53 -0000

--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Joseph Polanik <jPolanik@...> wrote:

> if something non-physical is having a physical effect; then, at
minimum,
> the doctrine of the causal closure of the physical bites the dust.

Let's see if I get it. The "non-physical" is the person acting.  But, if
one holds that all thoughts and behaviors are physically caused, then
wouldn't that be consistent with "causal closure of the physical" --
from that point of view.

> unless it can be shown that that qualia, first-person phenomenology,
can
> have a physical effect on a subatomic particle

Again, if one conceives of qualia as caused by brain events then, in
that sense, first-person phenomenology is having a physical effect.

  As you know, I'm not a brain causation enthusiast. But by asking the
question, I'll get a better understanding.

Thanks,

bruce



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