--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sean Wilson <whoooo26505@...> wrote: > That's a good point, but allow me to present a competing idea: I agree that the blind student is a special case. I described it to illustrate that when behaviorists say "thinking is behavior", they are talking about genuine behavior, and not simply misapplying the term. My own perspective is evolutionist. It seems to me that if the ability to think is a product of evolution, then it is thinking about behavior that is likely to have evolved. A lion, waiting to pounce, is probably thinking about the timing of its action. I'm inclined to doubt that peoples pet dogs are thinking about deep philosophical problems. > For my money, language as a behavior is a different sort of > thing -- it's cognitive behavior as opposed to bodily (ordinary) > behavior. Language involves a lot of intricately detailed use of motor actions, and it is behavior because of that. It also can involve ideas, which is what you are emphasizing. Some behaviorists seem to be rather eliminativist with regard to the cognitive aspects of language, and that's where I disagree a lot with those behaviorists. I suspect that the more eliminativist behaviorists would disagree with my earlier comment about "representing ideas in patterns of eye movements." Regards, Neil WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009