[Wittrs] Re: When is "brain talk" really dualism?

  • From: "swmaerske" <SWMirsky@xxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:35:19 -0000

--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kirby urner <kirby.urner@...> wrote:
>
> > Wittgenstein himself states that he came to "recognize grave mistakes" in 
> > the earlier work.
> >
>
> Exactly.  So the relationship of the PI to the TLP is like "this fixes that".
>

Presumably it "fixes" the "grave mistakes". Cayuse is convinced the mistake(s) 
was(were) confined to things like how he conceived language (a tool box now, 
not the mirror from then). But Cayuse fails to take account of the implications 
of this switch, i.e., the decision to use words, to speak about the concerns of 
philosophy, in a different way which follows from this recognition. In fact, 
the idea that one creates a ladder of nonsense up which to climb and then 
discards it makes no apparent sense since everytime one meant to scale those 
"heights", or wanted to get someone else to do so, one would have to recreate 
the nonsense all over again. But that cannot be done, once the nonsense is seen 
for what it is because then, in fact, one would have to have already climbed up.

Paradox works fine for Zen but it is not the point of philosophy. As 
Wittgenstein realized, the point is to dissolve the puzzle, not prolong its 
power over us.



> The earlier design pointed in the same direction but as a ladder, it
> wasn't fool proof.  The PI is more effective at liberating those who
> do their own thinking than TLP was -- still difficult though (yet more
> accessible).
>


"grave mistakes" he said and grave mistakes call for radical reassessment and 
change.

SWM


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