--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kirby urner <kirby.urner@...> wrote: > I thought the Emperors New Mind (Sir Roger) was pointing in a good > direction in some ways. It's mostly just silly (in my opinion). > I like the idea of "non-computable". Perhaps it has a curious ring to it. However, anything non-computable is infinite (whether a number with infinite decimal expansion, or a procedure that doesn't finish after a finite number of steps). We don't live long enough for infinite things to crop up. And that's why Penrose's ideas are just silly. Regards, Neil