Regarding the preface quoted from PI, Monk writes the following: In the summer of 1938 he prepared for publication a typescript based on the work he had written in Norway. This typescript constitutes the very earliest version of philosophical Investigations. "For more than one reason," he wrote in the preface: "... what I publish here will have points of contact with what other people are writing today. If my remarks do not bear a stamp which marks them as mine, I do not which to lay any further claim to them as my property." And yet, that they were his property was enormously important to him, and that Carnap, Braithwaite, Waismann, Ambrose and others had published ideas derivative of them was precisely the reason he was now prepared to go into print. In a later preface he admitted as much: "I was obligated to learn that my results (which I had communicated in lectures, typescripts and discussions), variously misunderstood, more or less angled or watered down, were in circulation. This stung my vanity and I had difficulty in quieting it." ---------------------------- [back to me] My take on this is that Wittgenstein is being sort of intellectually aristocratic in the first passage. What he is saying is, "if can't tell this is me, you must be an idiot. The others are half-wit frauds." instead of being direct or petty, he's being Kingly. Anyway, just my take. Regards. Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. Assistant Professor Wright State University Redesigned Website: http://seanwilson.org SSRN papers: http://ssrn.com/author=596860 Twitter: http://twitter.com/seanwilsonorg Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/seanwilsonorg New Discussion Group: http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html ----- Original Message ---- From: brendan downs <downs_brendan@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:40:29 AM Subject: [Wittrs] Re: Russell or Wittgenstein? "for more then one reason what i publsh here will have points of contact with what other people are writing today. If my remarks to not bear a stamp which marks them as mine, i do not wish to lay any further claim to them as my property" Preface Philosophical Investigations. I would like to bring in to question the works of the "Tractatus", Was it Wittgensteins? or Russell and Moore's work? Did Russell and Moore create a genius? Why did Wittgenstein refute the the tractatus? was Philosophical Investigations payback? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009