--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jrstern" <jrstern@...> wrote: > I'm more worried about whatever form the information takes, > whatever its acquisition logic, once it's within an agent. I am inclined to think that not very important. What is more important, is the availability of the information. > Popper talks of "objective knowledge" and the "third world" > or "world 3" of knowledge. I would put Popper's objective knowledge in world 3. > I'm now willing to argue that a clock does tell time, and that's > why when you look at it, you *get* the time, because the clock > "tells" it, in some appropriately modest and deflated manner. That's an example. I would put time in world 3. I see it as a human artifact. > But isn't Gibson something of a direct realist? J.J. Gibson was a direct realist. He married E. Gibson (his student at the time, I think), and she studied perceptual learning. I presume that both mostly agreed on perceptual learning and on direct perception. > I'll go with that, as far as it goes, but it doesn't > go far enough. It doesn't touch the important part, such as "how does it all work." That is, indeed, a shortcoming. Regards, Neil WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009