The insect is the Indian Meal Moth http://www.bugclinic.com/IndianMealMoth.htm Sept & Oct have been an awful 2 months of them but once Nov. roles in, their numbers will decline with the colder temps. At the worm stage, I always think of the extra protein the birds will get, although there are some birds that don't like them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betsyacorn@xxxxxxx To: kuechererdennis@xxxxxxxxx ; wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 7:05 PM Subject: [wisb] Re: larva in seed I'm not sure what larval insect is found within the seed, Dennis, but perhaps a safer method of control can be had via Gardener's Supply Co which offers a tanglefoot trap with pheromonal lures (for moths) that you might install in whatever the container is that you store your food in. It's called Pantry Pest Traps and can be found at www.gardeners.com or 800-427-3363. Betsy Abert, So. Milwaukee In a message dated 10/10/2011 3:26:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, kuechererdennis@xxxxxxxxx writes: I buy black oil at either Cedarburg feed store or the Saukville feed. They are up to $38 a 50 lb bag. The bags also contain a maggot looking type crawler about 1/4 inch long. If they get out of your bag or trash can (whatever), they will crawl under anything and everything, make cacoons and hatch small narrow looking flying insects. We are not getting the good seed. If you get an infestation, your going to have to lift everything to see the bottom and use tons of bug killing spray. Do not know if anyone else has had this problem. Dennis Kuecherer Mequon #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn