[wisb] Re: Western Grebe, Sheboygan Marina - late post from Georgia birder

  • From: Chris West <little_blue_birdie@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <paul.gloyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "[Wisb]" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:45:40 -0600

Paul, 
You asked if both were fairly uncommon around here.  Unfortunately, that's the 
problem and why every grebe here is scrutinized.  Both are rare. However, it 
would be more fitting to say that Western is rare, but regular enough that I'm 
not sure if it's still a review species or not.  Clark's is unrecorded in the 
state and would constitute a first state record, so we're always on the 
lookout.  
Therefore, all Western/Clark's Grebes are assumed to be Western unless proved 
otherwise.  We have yet to prove otherwise.... 

I think your new photos though, fairly clearly show a winter Western Grebe 
which is expected on the lakefront. 



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> From: Paul.Gloyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Western Grebe, Sheboygan Marina - late post from Georgia 
> birder
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:33:14 +0000
> 
> Thank you for all of the feedback regarding the Sheboygan grebe.  Sounds like 
> there may be some thoughts as to whether it is a Western or Clark's grebe.  
> Are both fairly uncommon this far east?  Unfortunately, the bird was a decent 
> ways away and the sun was very bright, so it may be tough to decipher.  Some 
> pictures seem to show a white spot near the bill...others not so much.  I 
> have posted a few more pictures for review.  I also have a picture from 
> California from a few years ago that I think may be a Clark's.  Please 
> provide any feedback.  Apologies again for posting so late...maybe it will 
> still be around.  Horned grebe and Snowy Owl pictures have also been posted.
> 
> 
> Additional Sheboygan Grebe pics:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6416593605/in/photostream/
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6416593213/in/photostream/
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6416592807/in/photostream/
> 
> 
> 
> California Grebe from 2007:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6356202465/in/photostream
> 
> 
> 
> Manitowoc Horned Grebe:
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6414629977/in/photostream
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6414626815/in/photostream/
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6414623543/in/photostream/
> 
> 
> 
> Start of Horicon Snowy Owl pics:
> 
> 
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6414313381/in/photostream/
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pgloyer/6414312851/in/photostream/
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Paul Gloyer
> 
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> 
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