Steve raises some good points that I had not thought of. It was always stressed to us in the past that everyone who sees a bird should submit a report and not assume that the other observers would send an acceptable report. Its hard to teach an old dog new tricks, but I see his reasoning about the electronoic age. Images such as Dave Freriiks' photos of the Inca Dove and Scissor-tailed Flycatcher go way beyond what is required for documentation . Since most observers now report electronically one way or another , this information is available to almost everyone. I guess my big hangup is that I like to write my report shortly after the sighting and don't want to go through that process if its not going to be looked at. I guess I could just scribble some rough notes and wait to see if anybody sees the bird after I do before writing the report. It appears I have to think this through a bit more. Thanks to Steve for his post. Thomas C Wood,Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County -----Original Message----- From: wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of steven lubahn Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:31 PM To: Wisconsin Birding Network Subject: [wisb] Re: Rare Bird Reporting This listserve is a good resource for the records committee. If you end up being the last person to see the bird then it is likely you will either post it to Wisbird or to Ebird. Then your documentation can be used to confirm the late date. Going through a dozen reports on the same bird takes time away from other reports that require more consideration. It's just a waste of valuable time. 50 years ago we didn't have the tools and gadgets we have today to disseminate information all over the place. Arrivals and departures are better recorded now then ever. You probably know when you are looking at a rare bird if your documentation is going to really make a difference especially these days when images are posted almost instantly. It's more important to put the effort in when it counts. Attached is a link that is a helpful outline to follow on submitting a report. http://www.birdfellow.com/journal/2011/01/23/a_lost_art_writing_descriptions _of_rare_birds Steven Lubahn Cudahy On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Ellis wrote: > They could work backward from the latest/last report. Once they find > an acceptable latest report from which to set a "last seen" date, they > could ignore the earlier reports if initial reports were credible. > Might save the committee some time. > Jesse Ellis, > Madison > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Jym Mooney & Carol Lee Hopkins < > hopmoon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> There is also the question of seasonal reports. The seasonal WSO >> editors have made it clear that they expect documentation for all >> rare birds reported to eBird. >> >> Somewhere there has got to be a happy medium that accommodates the >> scientific collection of data and avoids overwhelming the Records >> Committee. >> >> Jym Mooney, Milwaukee >> >> >> >> #################### >> You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin >> Birding Network (Wisbirdn). >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn >> To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn >> Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn >> >> >> > > > -- > Jesse Ellis > Post-doctoral Researcher > Dept. of Zoology > University of Wisconsin - Madison > Madison, Dane Co, WI > > > #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4601 - Release Date: 11/06/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4601 - Release Date: 11/06/11 #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn