This is probably obvious, but what this discussion calls to mind for me (though I've been guilty of not following my own advice plenty of times), when you know you're going birding - don't forget your camera! As an eBird reviewer, and I'm sure the folks on the records committee can echo this, when there's uncertainty about an ID, nothing compares to having a photo, even a fairly poor photo. Most cameras and even phones nowadays can obtain usable digiscoped images by holding them up to the eyepiece of the scope. When in doubt - try to get a photo! You can always send it to people and get second opinions later. Lots of people say, oh I'm not a photographer, but the zoom-in capability with digital images is pretty impressive even for photos where the birds are specks in the viewfinder, and it doesn't hurt to have a camera along. Being able to ask other people's opinions about specific birds you found in the field that you might be uncertain about is really a valuable way to learn. Nick Anich Ashland, WI Subject: Re: Horicon 10/15 - Upland Sandpiper From: "Jym Mooney & Carol Lee Hopkins" <hopmoon AT milwpc.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:57:02 -0500 After the discussion of the possibility of the bird found yesterday being a Ruff, I was back at Highway 49 at dawn today and spent over two hours scanning the shorebirds. Many more today, and much closer in. New ones included Spotted and Solitary Sandpipers. I was of course hoping for another shot at the Upland SP/Ruff candidate. I had one interesting candidate, in the same general area as yesterday. In addition to the general size/shape we described yesterday, I believe I saw a distinct white ring around the base of the bill. Unfortunately, the bird rose up and flew off, not to be seen again by me. It was bright white underneath, but I could not get a look at the upper tail/rump pattern. And so it remains just an intriguing possibility. Jym Mooney, Milwaukee #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn