[wisb] Re: Hawk in Glendale ( coopers or gos )
- From: john romano <cajunbirder@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Wisconsin Bird Net <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, paul.sparks@xxxxxxxxx, bettie@xxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
Yes the tail pattern would be that of a Coopers and not a Goshawk. I defer
to Ryan Brady and the others who have a good deal of knowledge of the two
species. Thanks to all for the info and for clearing up the ID in my mind.
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John Romano
Madison Wi
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--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Bettie R. Harriman <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Bettie R. Harriman <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [wisb] Re: Hawk in Glendale ( coopers or gos )
To: cajunbirder@xxxxxxxxx, "Wisconsin Bird Net" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
paul.sparks@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 3:53 PM
I'm certainly not a hawk expert, but while the
head looks much like a young Goshawk, the tail
pattern looks more like a Cooper's
Hawk. Goshawk's have wavey bands across the
tail, Cooper's and Sharp-shins straight bands. I
suspect most viewers are going by the tail pattern.
Bettie Harriman
Oshkosh
At 03:08 PM 9/16/2009, john romano wrote:
>I am not the one person who responded to Paul
>with a Goshawk ID.� However the photos show an
>obvious white eyeline on the raptor.� Both the
>Sibley and the Peterson guides make a note of
>the supercillium as an identifying mark for a
>junvenile Goshawk and not for the Coopers Hawk.
>Ã?
>So I am wondering why this raptor wouldÃ? not be
>a Goshawk junenile instead of a CoopersÃ? Hawk.
>Ã?
>John Romano
>Madison WiÃ?
>Ã?
>
>--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Paul Sparks <paul.sparks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>From: Paul Sparks <paul.sparks@xxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [wisb] Re: Hawk in Glendale
>To: "Wisconsin Bird Net" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 5:21 PM
>
>
>Just an update for everyone. Most people think the bird is a female Cooper's
>Hawk. I did get one person that thought it was a Northern Goshawk, and that
>was in the back of my mind and if I'm honest that's what I had hoped it was.
>No matter what the bird is, I was glad I saw it and hope it comes back for
>better photos.
>Paul Sparks
>Glendale, Milwaukee County
>
>On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Paul Sparks <paul.sparks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > This morning I walked out into my backyard with my camera to see if there
> > were any good birds back there. Yesterday I had seen a couple warblers of
> > undetermined species and a Northern Waterthrush feeding in the grass.
> > Immediately I saw a good sized hawk sitting on the bridge that crosses the
> > creek, which comes off the Milwaukee river near Kletsch Park. I thought it
> > was a Red-tailed Hawk because of the size, but after looking at the photos,
> > I�m pretty sure that isn�t the case. Here
> are 3 photos showing different
> > parts of the bird. The bird was sitting in the shade with a very bright
> > background, so the photos aren�t that great but you should be able
> > to get
> > the idea. I�d say Cooper�s Hawk, but it
> seemed really big. I�d love some
> > feedback on this on what the ID is on this guy.
> > Here's a link to the photos with the same description as above;
> > http://photogsparks.wordpress.com/
> >
> > Paul Sparks
> > Glendale, Milwaukee County
> >
> >
> >
> >
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