[wisb] Re: GBB or LBB gull? Kenosha
- From: "Bettie R. Harriman" <bettie@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: kuechererdennis@xxxxxxxxx, "trschultz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <trschultz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:36:44 -0600
My comments have nothing to do with the ID of the gull, but with the
names (well, I am serving as the Passenger Pigeon co-editor, so
editor speaking here).
According to the American Ornithologists' Union, the official English
name of each of these gulls species is - Lesser Black-backed Gull and
Great Black-backed Gull.
Note: Lesser and Great are not parallel - one can be forgiven for
expecting it to be Lesser and Greater, but it is not - at least not
at this time. This is a mistake many folks make when talking about
these two gulls. And when writing their names, please remember the
hyphen between Black and backed (also capital B in Black and lower
case b in backed).
So Dennis has it correct on all points: Great Black-backed Gull
See the sort of stuff editors have to watch for???
Bettie Harriman
Passenger Pigeon co-Editor
stepping off her soap-box in Oshkosh
At 12:04 AM 11/26/2011, Dennis Kuecherer wrote:
>I agree with Tom: Living on the east coast for so many years
>during service time, I had daily contact with Lesser's and
>Great's. Great Black-backed or Greater Black-backed... . .hmm .
>Happy holidays,. Dennis Kuecherer, Ozaukee Cty
>
>________________________________
> From: Tom Schultz <trschultz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: little_blue_birdie@xxxxxxx; dedlnr@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:42 PM
>Subject: [wisb] Re: GBB or LBB gull? Kenosha
>
>I'd have to say that I disagree with Chris on the gull ID -- I believe it to
>be a Lesser Black-backed. Although the bill seems somewhat large, that may
>be partially an illusion, since the head/bill may be in profile while the
>body is more of a 3/4 view. To me it does not appear especially heavy, in
>terms of the thickness relative to the length. The eye also seems
>relatively large relative to the bill size, while a Greater's eye tends to
>be proportionally smaller.
>
>The mantle/upperparts color also seems more dark gray than blackish, and
>unlike Lessers, adult Great Black-backs usually don't have much dusky
>mottling on the head & neck in winter.
>
>Unfortunately the leg color doesn't show in this photo, but I believe that
>they would be yellowish.
>
>Tom Schultz
>Green Lake Co.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris West
>Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:07 PM
>To: dedlnr@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [wisb] Re: GBB or LBB gull? Kenosha
>
>The gull is a Great Black-backed. Check out that bill.
>The Loon is a Common, bill again.
>The duck appears to be a domestic mallard.
>
>
>
>--Chris W, Richland County
>Sent from my iPod
>
>On Nov 25, 2011, at 22:44, John Krerowicz <dedlnr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > We came across what we believe is a lesser black backed gull at the
> > Southport Marina in Kenosha on Saturday. However, I just saw photos of a
> > Greater BBG on wisbird, and now I'm not so sure. We also saw a pintail
> > duck, a hybrid mallard and, at Lake Andrea in Pleasant Prairie, a loon.
> >
> > If anyone has a few moments to double check these birds, I've posted them
> > on our website:
> >
> > http://ourwildlifewebsite.info/Nov.25.2011.html
> >
> > We have 3 questions:
> >
> > 1. Is the gull a greater or lesser BB?
> > 2. Any idea what the mallard is a hybrid with?
> > 3. Is the loon a common or otherwise?
> >
> > Thanks much.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Krerowicz
> >
> > dedlnr@xxxxxxxxxxx
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