[wisb] Re: Draining of Wangness and Harvey Rd Lake in Columbia Co
- From: Ron Beeguy <ronbeeguy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <johnafdem@xxxxxxxxx>, <korducki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jjprestby@xxxxxxx>, <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:33:06 +0000
If the farmer is correct that the land has been farmed for all but 2 years of
the last 30, then the land is almost certainly not a "wetland," despite what it
may look like now.
That doesn't mean it isn't a loss for birds and the local ecology, but from a
legal standpoint, the farmer is probably within his rights to drain it and farm
it.
> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:53:19 -0700
> From: johnafdem@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Draining of Wangness and Harvey Rd Lake in Columbia Co
> To: korducki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jjprestby@xxxxxxx; wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Here's a webpage that can come in handy if one has any questions about
> wetlands that are being converted to non-wetlands. Generally speaking, it's a
> very expensive error for a farmer or developer to convert a wetland,
> involving fines and restoring the wetland.
> http://www.wisconsinwetlands.org/protectingFAQ.htm#determine
>
> John Afdem
> Okauchee, WI
> www.johnafdem.com
> http://jbravo.exposuremanager.com/
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> From: Korducki <korducki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: jjprestby@xxxxxxx; Wisbird <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:37:59 PM
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Draining of Wangness and Harvey Rd Lake in Columbia Co
>
> During the late 80's the pond on the west side of Harvey between Wangness
> and DM was a nice flooded marshy area. It even had a King Rail one summer.
> The farmer then installed drain tiles, I heard, and the area was dry for
> many years afterwards. I was surprised how much the area flooded after the
> record snows and a very wet summer last year. It was more like a lake. Not
> sure what the future holds for it now.
>
> Mark Korducki, New Berlin
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> From: "tom prestby" <jjprestby@xxxxxxx>
> To: "Wisbird" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:24 PM
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Draining of Wangness and Harvey Rd Lake in Columbia Co
>
>
> > This is very unfortunate. Not only has it attracted scores of migrants but
> > it has been one of the premier locations for nesting Pied-billed Grebes,
> > Coots, Ruddy Ducks, and possibly a few other species of ducks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Because of the geology of the location, I would think that a snowy winter
> > or wet spring will almost fill it up again anyways no matter how hard the
> > farmer trys to drain it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Prestby
> >
> > Paradise, MI
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:11:56 -0700
> >> From: cajunbirder@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [wisb] Draining of Wangness and Harvey Rd Lake in Columbia Co
> >> To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> The farmer who owns the land that has been under water the last 2 years
> >> that has attracted just about every possible shorebird and Eared Grebes
> >> and all other sorts or waterfowl, told me today that he has been in the
> >> process of draining the lake/pond. He says he needs to farm it and in the
> >> last 30 years, the last 2 years are the only years he has not.
> >>
> >> I wish I would have had the where-with-all to ask him if it would make
> >> financial sense if he sold the flooded areas to the Nature Conservancy or
> >> Madison Audubon. The numbers of waterfowl and shorebirds in this location
> >> has been phenominal. But I was told " this will be all drained so don't
> >> get used to birding here".
> >>
> >>
> >>
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