MessageWith comments like "it was better before" there's bound to no progress... ;-) Anyway, Windows has basically looked and felt the same since win95, and since you sort of dropped out on windows with at win3.1-times you missed the boat so to speak. I understand that there is a huge treshold to pass, so maybe a class dealing with a modern windows OS may be appropriate. As for PDF, I think you should have a look at the freeware PDF creator aptly named "PDFCreator" available at https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57796. IIRC it should be able to handle your odd-size booklets. BTW, your initial posting seem to really have dropped in like a bomb on this list! 8-D /Sorin (using OSes since CPM/86, over MS-DOS 3.x, OS/2 v2 to Warp4 and now WinXP/2k3) -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard F. Strait Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:03 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: activity!! I was on W3.1 on a 486 in 1989! I have no trouble with 2000 for basic tasks! I just like to wring all I can out of it! When referring to Folder and file concepts, I was commenting on the creation of things like "My Documents, recyle bin" etc. I like to create my own organization and not be driven by someone else's concepts! I miss the good ole "XTREE" where could sort and split screens to make sure I didn't have duplicate files. Of course that was preGUI! Editing of text files is a pain! I was used to Qedit where I could sort, block columns, etc. for specialized documents. PDF files are a pain, I have one on the computer now which I am unable to print in the format that I would like! It is defined as a landscape document and I want it to be in portrait format. I use a program called Clickbook that allows me to create 5 1/2 x 8 1/2 booklets, on both sides and PDFs are complex to print with it. One shouldn't have to go to classes. I am not of the opinion that each interation of Windows is an improvement! I'm not about to shell out Boo Coo shillings to be able to edit PDF files. Also locking a system into having to have it online all the time is crock. Not everyone can afford DSL, etc. Just a humble opinion of a retired Computer Systems analyst who defined criteria for data entry software for the military! It's nice to find someplace where I can express my thoughts! Anyhoo I'm fumbling along. Cheers, rfs On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:18:20 -0500 "Robert K Coffman Jr - Info From Data" <bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: I agree with you on Wizards, they suck. Folder and file concepts really have nothing to do with Gates. I think you need a class. There really isn't anything difficult about using Windows 2000 for basic tasks, unless you are trying to force your 1989 concepts on a 1999 operating system in 2006. What platform did you work on in 1989? -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard F. Strait Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:39 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: activity!! VBG, I didn't really need all the bells and whistles that came with the later version of Windows, plus my old 486 was supporting me fine, until I could no longer use email, running out of processor room! Then through a stroke of luck I came into posssession of a Compaq "Prosignia Desktop" with Windows 2000 installed and a megabyte hard drive and sound system. It was like being in seventh heaven. I'm retired and now I'm spending all my time on the PC. When it comes to computers I don't consider myself a newbie, it is just that I haven't kept up with the technology, but in hardware and software! I'm extremely disappointed in the way software is designed today. It is no longer intuitive and so complex one needs a road map to navigate. Each software designer and programmer believes that their bread and butter depends upon how fancy they can be, especially with the GUI. I also dislike the WIZARD interfaces. Gates and companies folder and file concept sucks. I believe in the KISS principle! Enough of my comments! rfs On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:13:35 -0800 (PST) "Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com"; <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> writes: \/ I went from a Z80 to Windows XP and whew what a shock....! : p @juno.com> wrote: I can see from the Juno account that you are a serious newbie. What can we do to help? Really I would like to know how you got by all these years without Windows 95, 98, 98 SE, WinME, Windows NT, and skipped right to 2000 which is now 6 years old and been replaced by XP. Where have you been for 15 years? Sounds sort of Rip van Winkleish. Is this list active! I upgraded recently from W3.1 to W2000 and miss some of the capabilities of the old 3.1. For example I now have a screenful of icons on the Desktop! I've been looking for ways to subgroup some of them so I don't have to have them all showing! Gate's and company have not really improved Windows, but merely making it more difficult to use. A 1989 retired Computer Systems Analyst! rfs ***************************** New Site from The Kenzig Group! 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