[windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade

  • From: "Leitman, Ken" <ken.leitman@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:35:18 -0500

DCs first, 

kl

 

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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave stevens
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:48 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade

 

OK, just wondered what you did. Did you upgrade your member servers
first before your DC or the other way round.



Joanne Determann <joanne.determann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        I was successful with my in place upgrades  DCs. The biggest
scare for me was potentially loosing local cached credentials Joanne. 

         

        
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        From: Dave stevens [mailto:london31uk@xxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:28 AM
        To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade

         

        Very useful insight. I guess removing a mirror drive is a nice
and easy way to get things back up if all doesn't go well.

         

        By the way what seems to be the great scare with in-place
upgrades?

         

         

        Dave
        
        "Leitman, Ken" <ken.leitman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

                Yes.

                 

                How you do this is based on your skill set and comfort
level. I have staff who are experienced in upgrade in place, and a lab
where we can run through this. I also work with a separate Exchange and
DBA group on the upgrade path for their products. We also development
servers for our major applications. Not having these makes this a much
more difficult decision. For file servers we remove a mirror drive, put
in a new drive, wait for re mirror to complete, then do the upgrade
(backups done the night before upgrade to verify completeness). On a few
hundred GB file server this saves us a lot of time, but practice and
test make any of this possible. 

                As usual, some applications will not work through in
place upgrades. And trying to do an upgrade with AV etc. still installed
could be devastating,

                kl

                 

                
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                From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dogers
                Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:09 AM
                To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade

                 

                Is it best to do in place upgrades, or to create new
machines (or reuse previous member machines, I guess!), join them and
seize roles?
                
                Andrew

                On 09/11/05, Leitman, Ken <ken.leitman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

                1)       you must go to Windows 2003 SP1 for your DCs. 

                2)       If you have remote offices with DCs check rpc
settings for timeouts, we did have some issues with this setting being
changed with SP1

                3)       Verify all hardware drivers with SP1 before you
roll it out, some video and other drivers MUST be upgraded, this was our
biggest issue and we had issues with SCSI, video and network cards

                4)       Start simple with local FSMO servers and make
sure you have a plan in place to move roles around

                 

                We did all of our 54 DCs in about three weeks. Without
SP1 we ran into all sorts of crazy issues, even with all of our testing.

                We use HP servers, but we have seen the same driver
problems on eval IBM and Dell servers when applying SP1

                Remove any third party software you can before any
server upgrades, by removing the monitoring, AV and backup software, we
were able to script an in place upgrade from W2K to W2K3. 

                Plan, test, plan some more and good luck, thankfully
this is less complex than Nt4 --> W2K, or initial AD
design/implementation,

                kl

                 

                
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                From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanne Determann
                Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:00 PM
                To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade

                 

                First thing I did was determine the compatibly of all my
apps and programs. 

                (Although my Websense DC agent doesn't work now even
though their support insisted it was 2003 compatible.)

                 

                Then I made a spread sheet 'server plan' . what  server
does what and how it was gonna move things around during the upgrade. 

                 

                Now it's in MS project timeline. 

                 

                My DC's are done, Terminal Servers ( licensing is a
biggy),backup and one webserver are complete

                Doing Exchange next week. 

                 

                
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                From: Dave stevens [mailto:london31uk@xxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:53 AM
                To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [windows2000] Windows 2000 domain upgrade

                 

                Hi Guys,

                 

                 

                I have just been tasked with comming up with a detailed
plan for our 2000 domain upgrade to 2003. 

                Does anyone have any tips  / whitepapers that would
help.

                 

                Currently it is a single domain, multiple sites setup we
have. Any suggestions would be helpful.

                 

                 

                Thanks

                 

                Dave

                
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