Yahoo bought Konfabulator which gives you floating windows on your desktop called "widgets" there are a bunch of different system monitoring ones written by people that are pretty keen. And the best part about it? Its FREE! See http://www.konfabulator.com/ I like the weather and calendar one and the digital clock also. Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net Sorin Srbu <s> wrote: Hi all, Anybody using Winbar here? As winbar2 never seems to get ready for release, I wonder if you guys use some other system monitoring freeware utility? Winbar is good in that it only uses a thin bar for its info area instead of a window. It also connects to Winamp out-of-the-box, which is a necessity for me. 8-) BW, Sorin