I have never thought it was an accident on Microsoft's part that their = new stuff never quite works right with their old stuff. If it wasn't = painful to continue to run Windows 98, you would never upgrade and that = does not help them and their executives to be the richest people in the = world.=20 I don't think its deliberate either, but they don't exactly have any = incentive to fix it for you. What are you going to do if they never fix = it? Nothing. At worst you will break down and shell out the money for = their new software which is what they wanted you to do in the first = place. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Dokey [mailto:adokey@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:00 AM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Re: Win2k DHCP They're both getting Win2k in the future, I haven't had any problems = like this anything NT'ish at all. Wintendo just stinks, that's pretty much = it. However, I still have quite a few wintendo clients out there and due to = MS licensing being a communist regime we can't really upgrade them without significant cost... =20 I'd still like to fix the Win2k DHCP service though... *sigh* = Sometimes, I think I'd rather be a plumber. Thanks, Aaron ----------------------- Aaron Dokey - MIS Reid Tool Supply 2265 Black Creek Rd. Muskegon, MI 49444=20 (231) 777-3951 (231) 767-3772 (Direct) ----------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:26 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Win2k DHCP I feel for ya. I have not seen this happen in Windows 2000 Pro. Bosses = =3D and Presidents like to be on the cutting edge. You might be able to use = =3D this as an opportunity to convince that they deserve the added power of = =3D Win2k Pro. I do have to add that my Linux at home experiment is going extremely =3D well :) Greg=3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Dokey [mailto:adokey@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:15 AM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Re: Win2k DHCP Unfortunately for me some of those people include my boss and the =3D president of the company... :) Gotta love Wintendo! -Aaron ----------------------- Aaron Dokey - MIS Reid Tool Supply 2265 Black Creek Rd. Muskegon, MI 49444=3D20 (231) 777-3951 (231) 767-3772 (Direct) ----------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:12 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Win2k DHCP no, but I can say that I run into some of the same problems with the = =3D3D Win98 clients. I only have one or two since we are mostly thin here but = =3D =3D3D I have seen it happen. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Dokey [mailto:adokey@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:12 AM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Re: Win2k DHCP :) That's not so much of an option here, although I'd like it to be. = =3D =3D3D20 Anyone fixed the Win2k DHCP service? Thanks, Aaron ----------------------- Aaron Dokey - MIS Reid Tool Supply 2265 Black Creek Rd. Muskegon, MI 49444=3D3D20 (231) 777-3951 (231) 767-3772 (Direct) ----------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lee [mailto:marklee15@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:32 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Win2k DHCP We had trouble with our Win2K DHCP server not giving out IP addresses = =3D =3D3D (there were plenty available, including some machines that had valid leases but couldn't get the IP address) - again only to certain machines (these = =3D =3D3D were Win2K Pro or Linux desktops). You could do IPCONFIG /RELEASE then =3D3D IPCONFIG /RENEW to sort the issue but you had to log on to the client first ! SO .... We removed DHCP from the W2K box and installed a Linux DHCP server based = =3D =3D3D on Redhat 7.2 - Never had ANY problems with that one ! ! ! Mark =3D3D20 Aaron Dokey wrote: Ever since moving to Windows 2000 DHCP service we've had problems with Windows 98 machines not getting IP addresses when they are powered on. = =3D =3D3D If a client logs on right after the machine is started up they can't access = =3D =3D3D any network resources because they don't have an IP. If the client waits a = =3D =3D3D few minutes after the machine is up, and at the login prompt they're able to login just fine. We don't see this in all of our windows 98 clients, and all the machines = =3D =3D3D are on the same network as the DHCP server, no relays are in place. We did not have this problem when we were running on the Windows NT 4.0 = =3D =3D3D DHCP service. Anyone see something like this?=3D3D20 Thanks, Aaron ----------------------- Aaron Dokey - MIS Reid Tool Supply 2265 Black Creek Rd. 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