they are great, the best IMO, but they are starting to get into this forced upgrade crap every two years which is not making me happy. They are a snap to setup and I am sure between me and the others here that use them we can give you a hand if you run in to trouble. Greg -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bill Beckett Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:35 PM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Watchguard Opinions on watchguard as a firewall? Anyone use it? Like it, hate it, works well?