[windows2000] Re: Remote Assistance/Desktop

  • From: "Daniel Ensor" <densor@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:31:29 -0000

Thank god, well I know hard outside soft inside isn't a good model these
days but there is always a trade off between functionality and security.
We run IPSEC internally and all thin clients are running 128bit, I have
a script which checks all the logs for vnc service events daily
(something gencontrol always creates) you also have to have admin rights
(yes I know you can obtain these but...) so if you're all good there
then I would open that port... it depends how much you need to be able
to do it I guess... 
 
The way I see it is if any hacker is getting in and is worth their salt
the last thing they're going to do is run a VNC session onto a users
machine, the intrusion would be detected by admins reasonably quickly so
where's the fun in that. Far better to sit on your routers and misdirect
packets, hide exploits on your HP printers flash memory and run jack the
ripper on your accounts and log in legitimately... but maybe they would
log onto a users XP box and change the background on the desktop ;)
 
 

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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dogers
Sent: 09 November 2005 15:16
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Remote Assistance/Desktop


God no, not the company firewall!

I mean XP's :)

We have it enabled by default as a CYA if any accidents happen ;)

Andrew


On 09/11/05, Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        Dogers <> scribbled on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:44 PM:
        
        I know what you mean...
        
        Anyway, I wouldn't unblock the VNC ports in the company firewall
if I
        were you, and that's what you mean?
        
        VNC is well-known to crackers and hackers... Granted, you can
lock it
        down using white-lists and stuff, but I'd still rather see a way
to
        initiate a mail-remote-desktop-session and yadda, yadda, yadda,
using an
        already built-in program. I really with Microsoft could point
its wand 
        over the rdp-clients and do some magic. 8-/
        
        
        > Yeah, I remember you asking, was hoping we had found an
answer! Guess
        not,
        > bah!
        >
        > Whats annoyed me is just now we tried doing one WITH an invite
and it 
        kept
        > wanting to kick the user off anyway!
        >
        > Will have to get VNC unblocked on the firewall I guess :(
        >
        > Andrew
        >
        >
        > On 09/11/05, Sorin Srbu < sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
        > Dogers <> scribbled on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:38 PM:
        >
        > I asked the same thing a while back, but didn't really come
any
        > conclusion. Anyway, I'd like to do this too. 
        >
        >> Anyone know if theres a way to connect to an XP machines
console
        session,
        >> without logging off the current user? I know the user can
send an
        invite
        >> and ask you to connect, but is there a way to connect without
the 
        user
        >> sending the initial invite?
        
        
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