[windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives

  • From: Jeff Malczewski <jmalczewski@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:05:56 -0400

Well, don't forget, a CDROM isn't something that is constantly spinning like
a hard drive is..  It's only being utilized when there's a CD in there...

-----Original Message-----
From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:50 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:41:54 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:

>If you heard the drive *ping*, check your power settings..??  Perhaps
>it's configured to power down unused drives after a period of time? 

Checked, it's set to "never" spin down.

>Dunno what else it could be, aside from a hardware malfunction..

I was thinking so too. The 2ry ide-port on the mobo may be twitchy,
however the cdrom seems to be fine.

Are there still (bios-)limits on how big a drive may be if it's
connected on the 2ry ide-port? I know this was an issue a few years

>Again, though, I'd recommend checking with Maxtor to find out about
>the SMART information being incorrect..  You should be able to provide
>them with the serial number of the drive and they can give you the
>date of manufacture and whether or not it was sold as new or

Manana. I'm going home. 8*)

>Also, what did you pay for the drive?  Chances are if you got a deal
>that was "too good to be true", it was, and it's a re-furb.  If you
>paid market rate, then it's either brand new, or you got ripped off...

"Full price". About 2000 SEK (approx 150 USD)

>> >No problem..  However, I doubt that ALL the hard drives you have are
>> >refurbished (or were they all purchased together in one lot?)...
>> No, they weren't. I don't keep that big a stock on the shelves,
>> only two-three for emergencies. ANyway, that 300G-drive was
>> purchased separately.
>> >I'd keep
>> >poking around..  Perhaps contact the drive's manufacturer?  They might
>> >able to provide some insight on this..
>> I have now changed it from being 2ry slave to 1ry slave, and so far
>> it's still working fine.
>> It almost seemed as if it got disconnected somehow, as I heard the
>> "drive disconnected"-ping after some 15-30 minutes after each
>> reboot, at which point it would be up and avtive for another 15-30
>> minutes. I'm not quite sure this should happen with harddrives in
>> win2k server sp4, or should it...?? It's a regular at-drive, and
>> not usb, fw, or whatever.
>> I'll let it run for a while and see what happens till tomorrow
>> morning.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:03 AM
>> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:52:38 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have purchased re-furbished hard drives on numerous occasions.  It
>> >>usually happens when a customer returns a drive that has been opened
>> >>(whether or not is has been used is usually not a factor) or when a
>> >>customer sends a drive back for warranty and that drive is either a)
>> >>not broken or b) easily repaired.  Read the fine print..  About 6 or 7
>> >>years ago I had a 1.7Gb IDE Seagate, and it went bad.  Seagate's
>> >>solution was to send me a refurbished hard drive for the
>> >>replacement...
>> >
>> >I had no idea... I guess we learn something new every day. Thx for
>> >the info!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>> >SS> Just checked a slighly flakey harddrive with a tool called
>> >>> >SS> diskcheckup, and it reported that the particular drive had had
>> >>> >SS> 50875 power on hours. That would translate to about 6 years
>> >>> >SS> right?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >SS> Now, I know for a fact that this specific hd was bought and
>> >>> >SS> installed (by me) about 8 months ago, so what gives?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >SS> Do any of you what this "power on hours" actually means, as my
>> >>> >SS> initial thought was that it would indicate for how long the
>> >>> >SS> been up and running ("on").
>> >>> >
>> >>> >SS> I also checked the other two harddrives on the same computer,
>> >>> >SS> those also report power-on times in the 50-60k hrs range, in
>> >>> >SS> other drives on other computers I checked out of curiousity
>> >>> >SS> report totally hillarious power on hours. We do run our servers
>> >>> >SS> clients 24/7, but none of those are even as old as the hd SMART
>> >>> >SS> power-on flag indicates.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >SS> Is the SMART-features at all reliable??
>> >>> >
>> >>> >SS> This is weird... Thx for any hints
>> >>> >
>> >>> >The only suggestion I'd have is that the drive was refurbished.
>> >>> >bought some hard drives that were great deals only to find out that
>> >>> >were refurbished and that was not made clear to me at the time of
>> >purchase.
>> >>>
>> >>> The particular drive was one of those new maxtor 300GB-series kind
>> >>> of type, so I'd say it's not a refurbished one.
>> >>>
>> >>> Refurbished? How common is that? I've never heard of companies
>> >>> refurbishing harddrives and selling them as new.



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