[windows2000] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

  • From: "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:03:51 -0500

Jerry Seinfeld didn't do much for American Express in those ads.  i don't
know why Microsoft thinks he's going to help them with vista.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <
jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Here is my one sorta off topic post in a long time. JK
> I'd love to here comments and discussion. Either here or on my blog. Am I
> wrong? And remember this isn't a RANT this is an OPINION.
> OPINION: It is time for Microsoft to start making nice with competing
> software vendors if they want to sell Vista. Save your $300 
> Million!<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html>
> http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html
>
> This is my Opinion and does not reflect those of any of my employers. I
> have never been a Microsoft Basher (in fact I am probably one of their
> biggest champions over the last 25 years) But I am really fed up with the
> hype and also the infighting between Microsoft and other competing computer
> companies and this isn't going to sell me Vista. And since my MVP status was
> taken away I'm not going to hold back anymore. (not that I did when I was an
> MVP which is probably why they didn't pick me up again in the first place
> LOL)
>
> NEWSFLASH TO MICROSOFT: Jerry 
> Seinfield<http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/220605/microsoft-enlists-seinfeld-in-vista-battle.html>isn't
>  going to help you sell more Vista licenses to
> Enterprises<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/No-Enterprise-Thaw-for-Vista/>no
>  matter how much you pay him. (and it is $10 million for those who care.)
> It is very funny to poke fun at other vendors, but I hate to tell you that
> Apple is spot on with most of it's Mac and PC commercials when it comes to
> the Enterprise.
>
> I have been trying to roll out 700 Vista machines in our enterprise since
> last July (2007!) and at every corner I arrive at a new STOP sign that
> prevents me from doing it. Our organization requires several plugins and
> pieces of software from many vendors. These vendors deem their software
> Vista compatible but in reality they are only Vista compatible if the user
> is local and not on a domain or is an administrator.
>
> And some of these programs, whether you turn off UAC, tell them to always
> run as administrator, put them in compatibility mode or whatever, still crash
> hard<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/watch-out-with-adobe-acrobat-reader-9.html>as
>  soon as the user account is made a mandatory or roaming profile.
>
> Companies like 
> Adobe<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/watch-out-with-adobe-acrobat-reader-9.html>,
> Sun, ADP, Altiris, Symantec seem not to really care whether their software
> is fully compatible with Vista. I've had issues with every one of these
> companies getting one of their products to work on Microsofts Darling new
> OS.
>
> Countless hours of my time have been wasted attempting to circumvent
> Vista's built in "security" just to get simple core applications (like Adobe
> Reader 
> 9<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/watch-out-with-adobe-acrobat-reader-9.html>)
> to work in a domain environment. Sun only certifies the latest versions of
> Java to work with Vista and ADP whom refuses to update their applications
> like eTime to run properly with the latest version for example refuse to
> play. Time keeping is a critical thing here as our employees like to get
> paid.
>
> There is a wonderful open source IM application that we are going to use
> called Spark <http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/spark/> to provide
> support to our customers. Worked fine for local user accounts but as soon as
> you put it into a roaming profile, bam, for some reason now you have to be
> an administrator to run it. Same for Adobe Acrobat 9 and countless other
> programs.
>
> Every program has had a different solution in trying to get it to run in an
> enterprise environment on Vista. I really doubt that Microsoft used a domain
> with mandatory roaming profiles to the user in it's so called Mojave
> experiment<http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/215241/microsofts-34mojave34-ruse-going-public.html>.
> If they did the users would not be saying how great it was.
>
> Dammit Microsoft! I really want Vista to work and to give it to my users. I
> really do. I know it isn't your fault that OTHER vendors can't get their
> software written correctly to adhere to your stringent security requirements
> but it SHOULD be your responsibility to ENGAGE them and assist them in
> getting it to work. These are not small companies I am talking about and yes
> most have competing products to your offerings. But bringing on the Borg
> attitude is not going to win you any customers and comedy is not going to
> make it any easier for them to deploy Vista.
>
> Right now the Adobe problem is a project killer for us. Windows XP is
> looking mighty fine.
>
> *MY ADVICE TO MICROSOFT?*
> Save your $300 million advertising dollars and go out and use it to send a
> couple of code gurus around to these companies and get them to help get
> their code to work! You could spend half the money, donate the other half to
> charity and sell 10 times more product cause it would WORK!
>
> Jim Kenzig
> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
>

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