True, but I think the emphasis would be on helping them channel their ability in the right direction. What you might find is that these kids have a talent which we can help harness, and direct. This might potentially help them with a meaningful career in the future. What we tend to see is raw talent, unproductive and mis-directed. This particular kid wants a career in IT, but I am very sure he doesnt know what. This might help him channel his thoughts in the right direction, and be better informed when he makes his choice. But then, I might be wrong, and we might just be dealing with seasoned Hackers. Thanks Patrick ________________________________ From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:49:23 AM Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions The risk here is that as soon as it's something organized by adults, the chase loses its attraction. OTOH, setting up a lab-network and telling them to hack this and this computer and find a file containing this particular text, might set them off. Kinda' like a treasure hunt. The coin has two sides though, as always. They might use the same techniques to hack you sharp production network, "just to see if it's possible". ;-) -- /Sorin >-----Original Message----- >From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick >Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:17 AM >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions > >He must be about 15/16. Cos there was the talk of him taking his final exams. >I am >begining to notice a trend in all the schools I support. We seem to have about >3 or 4 >kids that are good @ things like that. Well these are kids we know, and I am >thinking >of suggesting setting up a special technology group to help them chanel thier >gift >constructively. >I might create a mini lab/ network with a dozen old pcs, and get them to play >and >reaaly focusing and directing thier intelligent on good. Not sure how the >principals >would take that, but I sure will suggest this to the IT director. > > >Patrick > > >________________________________ > >From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:10:27 AM >Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions > >Nice, and also rather ingenious IMO! > >How old kid(s) are we speaking? > >-- >/Sorin > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- >>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick >>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:12 PM >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions >> >>ok guys, after some serious talking to, the kid has decided to let us in on >>some of >his >>tricks. >> >> >> >>1. Download zip files allows him to get to the C: drive by being able to >>access >the >>Temp Internet files. >> >>2. If he disconnects the computer from the network, it installs a local >>profile for >>him, giving him access to the C: drive and the “Run” command. >> >>3. He runs a “compressed” cmd file from within PowerPoint. >> >>4. By running “Find Printer” he is able to find users accounts. >> >>5. He accesses “command.com <http://command.com/> ” (the equivalent of >cmd.exe). >> >>6. He runs cmd.exe to get to files on the servers. >> >> >> >>Should this kid not be studying, rather than keeping me busy? >> >> >>Anyway, just thought to share. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >>Patrick >> >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:54:33 PM >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions >> >>Yes I understand kids will be kids but it covers you. >>Jim Kenzig >>Blog: http://www.techblink.com >>Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig >>Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot >> >> >> >>On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> This is an idea I have suggested, and I think there is a good case to >>push this forward. Whats I have found is that no matter how tight you try to >>make >>things the kids will seek to break in. In most cases because they do not >>understand >>what the consequences could be if enforced. >> >> Really annoying. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms/ <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:59:44 PM >> >> Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - >>suggestions >> >> >> Well I am not sure about Australia but here we do have computer >>hacking laws and a simple "Your current computer activity appears to be >>illegal and >>you may be prosecuted if you do not cease and desist" dm to the computer may >>be >>enough. You of course also make sure that you have a proper logon privacy >>message in place prior to logon that requires an OK click. >> Here is ours: >> >> THIS SYSTEM IS FOR USE OF AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND >>ACTIVITIES ONLY! >> Activities may be subject to monitoring, recording, and periodic audits >> The system and all content are property of CCPL and are NOT >>considered private. >> The organization may access any users accounts or communications. >> Anyone using this system expressly consents to the above and to all >>CCPL Policies and Rules regarding >> computer and Internet use and security. >> OK >> >> This should cover you legally at least. >> Regards >> Jim Kenzig >> Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/> ><http://www.techblink.com/> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Berny Stapleton >><berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, it was actually regedit and they were modifying the >>SAM. >> >> Quite clever really, but a little frustrating. >> >> 2009/3/25 Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp. >> <bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> > Scheduled task can run in System context & allow >>someone to launch a cmd >> > prompt or something with basically full control of the >>system. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>Of Sorin Srbu >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:39 AM >> > To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your >>network - suggestions >> > >> > Could you please elaborate on the scheduler thing, >>what's that about? Thx. >> > -- >> > /Sorin >> > >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:windows2000- >> >>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton >> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:38 PM >> >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your >>network - suggestions >> >> >> >>Oh, turn off the scheduler. Keep your patches up to >>date. (That's the >> >>one that caught me) >> > >> > >> > ********************** >> > To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >> > mode or view archives use the below link. >> > >> > //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000 >> > >> ********************** >> To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >> mode or view archives use the below link. >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000 >> >> >> >> >> > >