[windows2000] Re: Announcing beta release of Windows Vista SP1!

  • From: "Charles R. Buchanan" <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:35:01 -0700

Basically. It could be either both versions of XP or 32bit XP and 64bit
Linux

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:43:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came 
up with this:

> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Monday, October 01, 2007 4:14 PM:
> 
> You mean dual-boot 32 and x64?
> 
> 
> > I went to M$ site the other day and I'm going to download the trial
> > version of XP 64bit. Give it the once over. Question though, if I was to
> > put 4GB ram in the new machine, I guess I would have to take out at
> > least 1, maybe 2GB when I run the 32bit OS, correct?  I mean, although
> > the manual said that having more memory wouldn't do any damage, but I
> > would like to play it safe if possible. <shrug>
> > 
> > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:51:42 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > came up with this: 
> > 
> >> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Friday, September 28, 2007 7:58 PM:
> >> 
> >> Running games on a 32b-windows os (incl Vista") with more than 3GB of RAM
> >> will freeze it. Only solution is to use a 64b OS. I think the same
> >> limitation may be with 32b-linux as well. 
> >> 
> >> 32b OS:es are long since old hat. I've been running WinXP SP2 x64 for more
> >> than a year now and have had my irritations. Most have been solved with
> >> workarounds and I like the stability better with XP x64, after all it's
> >> built on Win2k3 Server... 
> >> 
> >> I recently got a 64b-aware UPHClean 2.0 from MS to try out. Profile-problem
> >> have been an issue for ever since the start with XP x64. Seems like it's
> >> now been resolved. 
> >> 
> >> Only thing left is for MS to release the 64b Power toys, and I'm happy. 8-)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> There seems to have been a slight change of plans! :-)  Fry's had/have a
> >>> ASUS M2A-VM motherboard and AMD Athlon x2 AM2 5600+ combo on sale for
> >>> $190USD.   So I bought it! :-)  Sure, the MB is an earlier model than
> >>> the MB I had in mind, but the deal saved me some bucks!  Have to go out
> >>> and buy a Fan/heatsink for it, and also the memory.
> >>> 
> >>> Speaking of such, it states in the manual that it is recommended that
> >>> less than 3GB of ram be installed if running the 32bit version of XP or
> >>> Vista. I heard that someone where else I do believe. Seeing that
> >>> developing 64 bit apps are at a crawl, looks like the full memory
> >>> capacity of the MB will never be seen/realized! :-O
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:54:23 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
> >>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this: 
> >>> 
> >>>> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:39 PM:
> >>>> 
> >>>> You really need 2GB of RAM to make Vista happy and run at the (somewhat)
> >>>> same speed as XP? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> What kind of cpu (and other hw) do run your Vista on? Stationary or
> >>>> portable? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I've only tried Vista as a VM in VMWare Server as RC2 or something like
> >>>> that and it of course sucked big time, but that was rather expected. The
> >>>> only other Vista I've run was on a spanking brand new HP 6715s notebook I
> >>>> bought for one of the staff at the dept. It came with Vista Basic
> >>>> preinstalled and run off of an AMD Turion 3200+ or something like that
> >>>> and had 1G RAM. From first switching it on until I could logon and check
> >>>> it out, it took more than two hours... Well in, it felt really sluggish.
> >>>> I checked the overall index on it and it was 3, with about half of the
> >>>> checked things at 4. Assuming 5 is top notch I was rather dissapointed
> >>>> with Vista. It wasn't like the Basic-version runs a lot bling-bling,
> >>>> bells and whistles. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I nuked this Vista install and installed XP SP2 and sure enough it felt a
> >>>> lot more speedy, slick and smooth. Granted portables are almost always
> >>>> more sluggish than their stationary variants, but this much??
> >>>> 
> >>>> We're not going Vista anytime soon... In best case scenario, not until
> >>>> 2011, or whenever XP isn't supported anymore.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Actually I when I got the Business version and installed it, I was
> >>>>> pleasantly surprised that I actually liked it. It took me awhile to let
> >>>>> go of W2K in favor of XP, but once I did, there was no looking back! :-)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Sure there are a couple of things that I didn't like, such as, I now
> >>>>> have to go out and buy a more expensive sound card because SB doesn't
> >>>>> support the Live 5.1 card any more, thus no Vista drivers. I like Kerio
> >>>>> firewall, but it won't install under Vista so I have to use Zone Alarm.
> >>>>> :-O 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I have also found that Vista likes it better if you install it on a
> >>>>> primary (active) partition when dual booting. :-(  XP is the primary OS
> >>>>> on this machine and since I have sound card issues, I have to keep XP
> >>>>> because that is where my games are located! :-) The overall speed though
> >>>>> is what REALLY surprised me though. I have 2gb of ram so that helps a
> >>>>> LOT, and I haven't tried the ready boost feature, but that's suppose to
> >>>>> speed things up too from what I heard.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:19:32 -0400, "Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com"
> >>>>> <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Lol  I can tell you that there are supposed to be immense improvements
> >>>>>> to networking and GPO. I really hope that they have it out by the end
> >>>>>> of the year.  I am rolling out Vista machines to our staff January of
> >>>>>> next year. Vista can be so dumbed down if you take the time to look
> >>>>>> just like Windows 2000 or XP, I've done this so there is no culture
> >>>>>> shock to our staff. Jim 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 9/26/07, Charles R. Buchanan <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> wrote: Maybe because they haven't found a way to bootleg it (Vista)
> >>>>>> yet?  ;-) 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:50:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
> >>>>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        > Chris Berry <> wrote on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:38 PM:  
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>        > No wonder the Chinese skipped Vista in favour of WinXP for 
> >>>>>> the 2008
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>        Olympics... >>8-> >
> >>>>>>        > I hope our beloved software provider Microsoft gets the 
> >>>>>> hint...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        > > Anything before SP2 is a beta version, didn't you know that 
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>>        now? > > > > Chris Berry > > chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>        > > Information Advisory Manager
> >>>>>>        > > JM Associates
> >>>>>>        > >
> >>>>>>        > > "The measure of success is not whether you have a tough 
> >>>>>> problem to
> >>>>>>        deal > > with, but whether it's the same problem you had last 
> >>>>>> year.
> >>>>>>        -John Foster    > > Dulles" > >
> >>>>>>        > >
> >>>>>>        > > Ray Costanzo wrote:
> >>>>>>        > >> I hope SP1 is essentially a brand new operating system,
> >>>>>>        considering how         > >> awful Vista is. > >>
> >>>>>>        > >>
> >>>>>>        > >>
> >>>>>>        > >>
> >>>>>>        > >>
> >>>>>>        > >> *From:*
> >>>>>> 
> >>>> <mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>        > >> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of 
> >>>>>> *Jim
> >>>>>>        Kenzig > >> ThinHelp.com > >> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 
> >>>>>> 2007 7:10
> >>>>>> PM > >> 
> >>>>>>        *To:* THIN; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; vista@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>
> >>>>>>        *Subject:* [windows2000] Announcing beta release of Windows 
> >>>>>> Vista SP1!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>        >> > >> > >>
> >>>>>>        > >> Today Microsoft released the beta of Windows Vista Service 
> >>>>>> Pack
> >>>>>>        one to > >> select MVP's and beta testers.  You will find 
> >>>>>> customer
> >>>>>>        ready information > >> about Windows Vista SP1 at
> >>>>>>        > >> 
> >>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx as
> >>>>>>        well as, > >> the Windows Vista blog at
> >>>>>>        > >> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/default.aspx
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        > >> There are some very exciting enhancements that I can't 
> >>>>>> wait to
> >>>>>>        tell you > >> about once MS releases them from NDA.  Watch this 
> >>>>>> space
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>        > >> Regards
> >>>>>>        > >> --
> >>>>>>        > >> Jim Kenzig
> >>>>>>        >
> >>>>>>        >
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> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> --
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