Basically. It could be either both versions of XP or 32bit XP and 64bit Linux On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:43:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Monday, October 01, 2007 4:14 PM: > > You mean dual-boot 32 and x64? > > > > I went to M$ site the other day and I'm going to download the trial > > version of XP 64bit. Give it the once over. Question though, if I was to > > put 4GB ram in the new machine, I guess I would have to take out at > > least 1, maybe 2GB when I run the 32bit OS, correct? I mean, although > > the manual said that having more memory wouldn't do any damage, but I > > would like to play it safe if possible. <shrug> > > > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:51:42 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > came up with this: > > > >> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Friday, September 28, 2007 7:58 PM: > >> > >> Running games on a 32b-windows os (incl Vista") with more than 3GB of RAM > >> will freeze it. Only solution is to use a 64b OS. I think the same > >> limitation may be with 32b-linux as well. > >> > >> 32b OS:es are long since old hat. I've been running WinXP SP2 x64 for more > >> than a year now and have had my irritations. Most have been solved with > >> workarounds and I like the stability better with XP x64, after all it's > >> built on Win2k3 Server... > >> > >> I recently got a 64b-aware UPHClean 2.0 from MS to try out. Profile-problem > >> have been an issue for ever since the start with XP x64. Seems like it's > >> now been resolved. > >> > >> Only thing left is for MS to release the 64b Power toys, and I'm happy. 8-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> There seems to have been a slight change of plans! :-) Fry's had/have a > >>> ASUS M2A-VM motherboard and AMD Athlon x2 AM2 5600+ combo on sale for > >>> $190USD. So I bought it! :-) Sure, the MB is an earlier model than > >>> the MB I had in mind, but the deal saved me some bucks! Have to go out > >>> and buy a Fan/heatsink for it, and also the memory. > >>> > >>> Speaking of such, it states in the manual that it is recommended that > >>> less than 3GB of ram be installed if running the 32bit version of XP or > >>> Vista. I heard that someone where else I do believe. Seeing that > >>> developing 64 bit apps are at a crawl, looks like the full memory > >>> capacity of the MB will never be seen/realized! :-O > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:54:23 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" > >>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > >>> > >>>> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:39 PM: > >>>> > >>>> You really need 2GB of RAM to make Vista happy and run at the (somewhat) > >>>> same speed as XP? > >>>> > >>>> What kind of cpu (and other hw) do run your Vista on? Stationary or > >>>> portable? > >>>> > >>>> I've only tried Vista as a VM in VMWare Server as RC2 or something like > >>>> that and it of course sucked big time, but that was rather expected. The > >>>> only other Vista I've run was on a spanking brand new HP 6715s notebook I > >>>> bought for one of the staff at the dept. It came with Vista Basic > >>>> preinstalled and run off of an AMD Turion 3200+ or something like that > >>>> and had 1G RAM. From first switching it on until I could logon and check > >>>> it out, it took more than two hours... Well in, it felt really sluggish. > >>>> I checked the overall index on it and it was 3, with about half of the > >>>> checked things at 4. Assuming 5 is top notch I was rather dissapointed > >>>> with Vista. It wasn't like the Basic-version runs a lot bling-bling, > >>>> bells and whistles. > >>>> > >>>> I nuked this Vista install and installed XP SP2 and sure enough it felt a > >>>> lot more speedy, slick and smooth. Granted portables are almost always > >>>> more sluggish than their stationary variants, but this much?? > >>>> > >>>> We're not going Vista anytime soon... In best case scenario, not until > >>>> 2011, or whenever XP isn't supported anymore. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Actually I when I got the Business version and installed it, I was > >>>>> pleasantly surprised that I actually liked it. It took me awhile to let > >>>>> go of W2K in favor of XP, but once I did, there was no looking back! :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> Sure there are a couple of things that I didn't like, such as, I now > >>>>> have to go out and buy a more expensive sound card because SB doesn't > >>>>> support the Live 5.1 card any more, thus no Vista drivers. I like Kerio > >>>>> firewall, but it won't install under Vista so I have to use Zone Alarm. > >>>>> :-O > >>>>> > >>>>> I have also found that Vista likes it better if you install it on a > >>>>> primary (active) partition when dual booting. :-( XP is the primary OS > >>>>> on this machine and since I have sound card issues, I have to keep XP > >>>>> because that is where my games are located! :-) The overall speed though > >>>>> is what REALLY surprised me though. I have 2gb of ram so that helps a > >>>>> LOT, and I haven't tried the ready boost feature, but that's suppose to > >>>>> speed things up too from what I heard. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:19:32 -0400, "Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com" > >>>>> <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Lol I can tell you that there are supposed to be immense improvements > >>>>>> to networking and GPO. I really hope that they have it out by the end > >>>>>> of the year. I am rolling out Vista machines to our staff January of > >>>>>> next year. Vista can be so dumbed down if you take the time to look > >>>>>> just like Windows 2000 or XP, I've done this so there is no culture > >>>>>> shock to our staff. Jim > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 9/26/07, Charles R. Buchanan <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> wrote: Maybe because they haven't found a way to bootleg it (Vista) > >>>>>> yet? ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:50:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" > >>>>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Chris Berry <> wrote on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:38 PM: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > No wonder the Chinese skipped Vista in favour of WinXP for > >>>>>> the 2008 > >>>>> > >>>>>> Olympics... >>8-> > > >>>>>> > I hope our beloved software provider Microsoft gets the > >>>>>> hint... > >>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Anything before SP2 is a beta version, didn't you know that > >>>>>> by > >>>>>> now? > > > > Chris Berry > > chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> > > Information Advisory Manager > >>>>>> > > JM Associates > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > "The measure of success is not whether you have a tough > >>>>>> problem to > >>>>>> deal > > with, but whether it's the same problem you had last > >>>>>> year. > >>>>>> -John Foster > > Dulles" > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > Ray Costanzo wrote: > >>>>>> > >> I hope SP1 is essentially a brand new operating system, > >>>>>> considering how > >> awful Vista is. > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> *From:* > >>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> > >> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of > >>>>>> *Jim > >>>>>> Kenzig > >> ThinHelp.com > >> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, > >>>>>> 2007 7:10 > >>>>>> PM > >> > >>>>>> *To:* THIN; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; vista@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >>>>>> *Subject:* [windows2000] Announcing beta release of Windows > >>>>>> Vista SP1! > >>>>> > >>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>> > >> Today Microsoft released the beta of Windows Vista Service > >>>>>> Pack > >>>>>> one to > >> select MVP's and beta testers. You will find > >>>>>> customer > >>>>>> ready information > >> about Windows Vista SP1 at > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx as > >>>>>> well as, > >> the Windows Vista blog at > >>>>>> > >> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/default.aspx > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> There are some very exciting enhancements that I can't > >>>>>> wait to > >>>>>> tell you > >> about once MS releases them from NDA. 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