[windows2000] Re: Announcing beta release of Windows Vista SP1!
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:43:52 +0200
Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Monday, October 01, 2007 4:14 PM:
You mean dual-boot 32 and x64?
> I went to M$ site the other day and I'm going to download the trial
> version of XP 64bit. Give it the once over. Question though, if I was to
> put 4GB ram in the new machine, I guess I would have to take out at
> least 1, maybe 2GB when I run the 32bit OS, correct? I mean, although
> the manual said that having more memory wouldn't do any damage, but I
> would like to play it safe if possible. <shrug>
>
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:51:42 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> came up with this:
>
>> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Friday, September 28, 2007 7:58 PM:
>>
>> Running games on a 32b-windows os (incl Vista") with more than 3GB of RAM
>> will freeze it. Only solution is to use a 64b OS. I think the same
>> limitation may be with 32b-linux as well.
>>
>> 32b OS:es are long since old hat. I've been running WinXP SP2 x64 for more
>> than a year now and have had my irritations. Most have been solved with
>> workarounds and I like the stability better with XP x64, after all it's
>> built on Win2k3 Server...
>>
>> I recently got a 64b-aware UPHClean 2.0 from MS to try out. Profile-problem
>> have been an issue for ever since the start with XP x64. Seems like it's
>> now been resolved.
>>
>> Only thing left is for MS to release the 64b Power toys, and I'm happy. 8-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> There seems to have been a slight change of plans! :-) Fry's had/have a
>>> ASUS M2A-VM motherboard and AMD Athlon x2 AM2 5600+ combo on sale for
>>> $190USD. So I bought it! :-) Sure, the MB is an earlier model than
>>> the MB I had in mind, but the deal saved me some bucks! Have to go out
>>> and buy a Fan/heatsink for it, and also the memory.
>>>
>>> Speaking of such, it states in the manual that it is recommended that
>>> less than 3GB of ram be installed if running the 32bit version of XP or
>>> Vista. I heard that someone where else I do believe. Seeing that
>>> developing 64 bit apps are at a crawl, looks like the full memory
>>> capacity of the MB will never be seen/realized! :-O
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:54:23 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
>>>
>>>> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:39 PM:
>>>>
>>>> You really need 2GB of RAM to make Vista happy and run at the (somewhat)
>>>> same speed as XP?
>>>>
>>>> What kind of cpu (and other hw) do run your Vista on? Stationary or
>>>> portable?
>>>>
>>>> I've only tried Vista as a VM in VMWare Server as RC2 or something like
>>>> that and it of course sucked big time, but that was rather expected. The
>>>> only other Vista I've run was on a spanking brand new HP 6715s notebook I
>>>> bought for one of the staff at the dept. It came with Vista Basic
>>>> preinstalled and run off of an AMD Turion 3200+ or something like that
>>>> and had 1G RAM. From first switching it on until I could logon and check
>>>> it out, it took more than two hours... Well in, it felt really sluggish.
>>>> I checked the overall index on it and it was 3, with about half of the
>>>> checked things at 4. Assuming 5 is top notch I was rather dissapointed
>>>> with Vista. It wasn't like the Basic-version runs a lot bling-bling,
>>>> bells and whistles.
>>>>
>>>> I nuked this Vista install and installed XP SP2 and sure enough it felt a
>>>> lot more speedy, slick and smooth. Granted portables are almost always
>>>> more sluggish than their stationary variants, but this much??
>>>>
>>>> We're not going Vista anytime soon... In best case scenario, not until
>>>> 2011, or whenever XP isn't supported anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually I when I got the Business version and installed it, I was
>>>>> pleasantly surprised that I actually liked it. It took me awhile to let
>>>>> go of W2K in favor of XP, but once I did, there was no looking back! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure there are a couple of things that I didn't like, such as, I now
>>>>> have to go out and buy a more expensive sound card because SB doesn't
>>>>> support the Live 5.1 card any more, thus no Vista drivers. I like Kerio
>>>>> firewall, but it won't install under Vista so I have to use Zone Alarm.
>>>>> :-O
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also found that Vista likes it better if you install it on a
>>>>> primary (active) partition when dual booting. :-( XP is the primary OS
>>>>> on this machine and since I have sound card issues, I have to keep XP
>>>>> because that is where my games are located! :-) The overall speed though
>>>>> is what REALLY surprised me though. I have 2gb of ram so that helps a
>>>>> LOT, and I haven't tried the ready boost feature, but that's suppose to
>>>>> speed things up too from what I heard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:19:32 -0400, "Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com"
>>>>> <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lol I can tell you that there are supposed to be immense improvements
>>>>>> to networking and GPO. I really hope that they have it out by the end
>>>>>> of the year. I am rolling out Vista machines to our staff January of
>>>>>> next year. Vista can be so dumbed down if you take the time to look
>>>>>> just like Windows 2000 or XP, I've done this so there is no culture
>>>>>> shock to our staff. Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/26/07, Charles R. Buchanan <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote: Maybe because they haven't found a way to bootleg it (Vista)
>>>>>> yet? ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:50:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
>>>>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Chris Berry <> wrote on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:38 PM: >
>>>>>> > No wonder the Chinese skipped Vista in favour of WinXP for the 2008
>>>>>
>>>>>> Olympics... >>8-> >
>>>>>> > I hope our beloved software provider Microsoft gets the hint...
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Anything before SP2 is a beta version, didn't you know that by
>>>>>> now? > > > > Chris Berry > > chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > > Information Advisory Manager
>>>>>> > > JM Associates
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > "The measure of success is not whether you have a tough problem to
>>>>>> deal > > with, but whether it's the same problem you had last year.
>>>>>> -John Foster > > Dulles" > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Ray Costanzo wrote:
>>>>>> > >> I hope SP1 is essentially a brand new operating system,
>>>>>> considering how > >> awful Vista is. > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> *From:*
>>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > >> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jim
>>>>>> Kenzig > >> ThinHelp.com > >> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2007 7:10
>>>>>> PM > >>
>>>>>> *To:* THIN; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; vista@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [windows2000] Announcing beta release of Windows Vista SP1!
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > >> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Today Microsoft released the beta of Windows Vista Service Pack
>>>>>> one to > >> select MVP's and beta testers. You will find customer
>>>>>> ready information > >> about Windows Vista SP1 at
>>>>>> > >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx as
>>>>>> well as, > >> the Windows Vista blog at
>>>>>> > >> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/default.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> There are some very exciting enhancements that I can't wait to
>>>>>> tell you > >> about once MS releases them from NDA. Watch this space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> Regards
>>>>>> > >> --
>>>>>> > >> Jim Kenzig
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jim Kenzig
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
>>>>>> http://www.thinhelp.com
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>>>>>
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