[windows2000] Re: Announcing beta release of Windows Vista SP1!

  • From: "Charles R. Buchanan" <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:14:27 -0700

I went to M$ site the other day and I'm going to download the trial
version of XP 64bit. Give it the once over. Question though, if I was to
put 4GB ram in the new machine, I guess I would have to take out at
least 1, maybe 2GB when I run the 32bit OS, correct?  I mean, although
the manual said that having more memory wouldn't do any damage, but I
would like to play it safe if possible. <shrug>

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:51:42 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came 
up with this:

> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Friday, September 28, 2007 7:58 PM:
> 
> Running games on a 32b-windows os (incl Vista") with more than 3GB of RAM will
> freeze it. Only solution is to use a 64b OS. I think the same limitation may
> be with 32b-linux as well.
> 
> 32b OS:es are long since old hat. I've been running WinXP SP2 x64 for more
> than a year now and have had my irritations. Most have been solved with
> workarounds and I like the stability better with XP x64, after all it's built
> on Win2k3 Server...
> 
> I recently got a 64b-aware UPHClean 2.0 from MS to try out. Profile-problem
> have been an issue for ever since the start with XP x64. Seems like it's now
> been resolved.
> 
> Only thing left is for MS to release the 64b Power toys, and I'm happy. 8-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > There seems to have been a slight change of plans! :-)  Fry's had/have a
> > ASUS M2A-VM motherboard and AMD Athlon x2 AM2 5600+ combo on sale for
> > $190USD.   So I bought it! :-)  Sure, the MB is an earlier model than
> > the MB I had in mind, but the deal saved me some bucks!  Have to go out
> > and buy a Fan/heatsink for it, and also the memory.
> > 
> > Speaking of such, it states in the manual that it is recommended that
> > less than 3GB of ram be installed if running the 32bit version of XP or
> > Vista. I heard that someone where else I do believe. Seeing that
> > developing 64 bit apps are at a crawl, looks like the full memory
> > capacity of the MB will never be seen/realized! :-O
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:54:23 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > came up with this: 
> > 
> >> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:39 PM:
> >> 
> >> You really need 2GB of RAM to make Vista happy and run at the (somewhat)
> >> same speed as XP? 
> >> 
> >> What kind of cpu (and other hw) do run your Vista on? Stationary or
> >> portable? 
> >> 
> >> I've only tried Vista as a VM in VMWare Server as RC2 or something like
> >> that and it of course sucked big time, but that was rather expected. The
> >> only other Vista I've run was on a spanking brand new HP 6715s notebook I
> >> bought for one of the staff at the dept. It came with Vista Basic
> >> preinstalled and run off of an AMD Turion 3200+ or something like that and
> >> had 1G RAM. From first switching it on until I could logon and check it
> >> out, it took more than two hours... Well in, it felt really sluggish. I
> >> checked the overall index on it and it was 3, with about half of the
> >> checked things at 4. Assuming 5 is top notch I was rather dissapointed
> >> with Vista. It wasn't like the Basic-version runs a lot bling-bling, bells
> >> and whistles. 
> >> 
> >> I nuked this Vista install and installed XP SP2 and sure enough it felt a
> >> lot more speedy, slick and smooth. Granted portables are almost always more
> >> sluggish than their stationary variants, but this much??
> >> 
> >> We're not going Vista anytime soon... In best case scenario, not until
> >> 2011, or whenever XP isn't supported anymore.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Actually I when I got the Business version and installed it, I was
> >>> pleasantly surprised that I actually liked it. It took me awhile to let
> >>> go of W2K in favor of XP, but once I did, there was no looking back! :-)
> >>> 
> >>> Sure there are a couple of things that I didn't like, such as, I now
> >>> have to go out and buy a more expensive sound card because SB doesn't
> >>> support the Live 5.1 card any more, thus no Vista drivers. I like Kerio
> >>> firewall, but it won't install under Vista so I have to use Zone Alarm.
> >>> :-O 
> >>> 
> >>> I have also found that Vista likes it better if you install it on a
> >>> primary (active) partition when dual booting. :-(  XP is the primary OS
> >>> on this machine and since I have sound card issues, I have to keep XP
> >>> because that is where my games are located! :-) The overall speed though
> >>> is what REALLY surprised me though. I have 2gb of ram so that helps a
> >>> LOT, and I haven't tried the ready boost feature, but that's suppose to
> >>> speed things up too from what I heard.
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:19:32 -0400, "Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com"
> >>> <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
> >>> 
> >>>> Lol  I can tell you that there are supposed to be immense improvements to
> >>>> networking and GPO. I really hope that they have it out by the end of the
> >>>> year.  I am rolling out Vista machines to our staff January of next year.
> >>>> Vista can be so dumbed down if you take the time to look just like
> >>>> Windows 2000 or XP, I've done this so there is no culture shock to our
> >>>> staff. Jim 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 9/26/07, Charles R. Buchanan <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:       
> >>>> Maybe
> >>>> because they haven't found a way to bootleg it (Vista) yet?  ;-)
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>  On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:50:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu"
> >>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this:
> >>>> 
> >>>>  > Chris Berry <> wrote on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:38 PM:  >
> >>>>  > No wonder the Chinese skipped Vista in favour of WinXP for the 2008
> >>> 
> >>>>  Olympics... >>8-> >
> >>>>  > I hope our beloved software provider Microsoft gets the hint...
> >>> 
> >>>>  >
> >>>>  > > Anything before SP2 is a beta version, didn't you know that by
> now?
> >>>>  > > > > Chris Berry > > chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>  > > Information Advisory Manager
> >>>>  > > JM Associates
> >>>>  > >
> >>>>  > > "The measure of success is not whether you have a tough problem to
> >>>>  deal > > with, but whether it's the same problem you had last year.
> >>>>  -John Foster    > > Dulles" > >
> >>>>  > >
> >>>>  > > Ray Costanzo wrote:
> >>>>  > >> I hope SP1 is essentially a brand new operating system,
> considering
> >>>>  how     > >> awful Vista is. > >>
> >>>>  > >>
> >>>>  > >>
> >>>>  > >>
> >>>>  > >>
> >>>>  > >> *From:*
> >>>> 
> >> <mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>  > >> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Kenzig
> >>>>  > >> ThinHelp.com > >> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2007 7:10 PM > >>
> >>>>  *To:* THIN; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; vista@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>
> >>>>  *Subject:* [windows2000] Announcing beta release of Windows Vista SP1!
> >>> 
> >>>>  >> > >> > >>
> >>>>  > >> Today Microsoft released the beta of Windows Vista Service Pack
> one
> >>>>  to > >> select MVP's and beta testers.  You will find customer ready
> >>>>  information > >> about Windows Vista SP1 at
> >>>>  > >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx as
> >>>>  well as, > >> the Windows Vista blog at
> >>>>  > >> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/default.aspx
> >>>>> 
> >>>>  > >> There are some very exciting enhancements that I can't wait to
> tell
> >>>>  you > >> about once MS releases them from NDA.  Watch this space
> >>>>> 
> >>>>  > >> Regards
> >>>>  > >> --
> >>>>  > >> Jim Kenzig
> >>>>  >
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