No, but if I'm a sighted person and I first see "This is completely
inaccessible", followed by "Oops, I missed something, it's accessible, but
tricky", my thought is, If they missed something to start with, what else
have they missed and is this really a problem or are they just missing
things? Whereas if the story is straight from the beginning there's more
credibility in it.
Bruce
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Chris Skarstad wrote:
hi Bruce. Well in this case, I don't really see it as changing our tune and going completely back on what we said, because there are still most definitely accessibility concerns. The interface isn't perfect and it can be quite confusing to a beginning user who may be smart enough to know how to operate Winamp, but not how to route cursors and do all kinds of clicks.
I operated Winamp for about 2 years without even knowing how to use the playlist editor or the equalizer.
So this is a breakthrough, but not a complete turn around.
At 07:52 AM 2/25/2006, you wrote:This is a good reason for hashing this stuff out in a forum such as this one *before* running to the Winamp forums. I know it's great to say use the forums, use the forums, use the forums, but it makes us look a little silly if we haven't doen all our homework first when we take an accessibility-related problem to the sighted world and then have to change our tune halfway through.
Bruce
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi List,
> > Further to expound on using the library:
> > you don't have to move up to the top of the page after turning on the
> virtual PC cursor and joining the cursors. All you need do is move up a
> line or two and route JAWS to PC on any portion of the visible station
> references and the web interface gains focus and becomes active.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:31 AM
> Subject: Re: major discovery!
> > > Hi Chris,
> > Well, you genius you, it turns out you did leave out a step. I got it to
> work as follows:
> > 1. Run Winamp, switch to the library and move to the Online > Media/shoutcast
> radio (or for that matter, any other of the 6 listings;
> 2. press insert (JAWS key) + Z to turn on virtual cursor;
> 3. now route JAWS to PC;
> 4. Press page up to move to the top of the page with the JAWS cursor;
> 5. arrow down to the line that begins the shoutcast radio or whatever > other
> choice you have made;
> 6. route PC to JAWS and presto! instant web page with most features
> familiar to web pages active and present.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:58 AM
> Subject: major discovery!
> > > Hi folks
> Ok, now i just made a *major* discovery, I'm gonna have to be eating
> some major crow over at the Winamp forums!
> > The library in 5.2 *does* work with JAWS and I'll show you exactly
> how. I have no idea how to do it with Window-eyes, so y'all are on your > own.
> > Ok, to get the new style of browser to work with JAWS 7.0, do the > following
> > 1. Open Winamp, and go to the library.
> > 2. focus on the online services section, and then press right arrow
> to open that, and then arrow down to Shoutcast radio.
> > 3.
> now, press insert z to turn on your JAWS virtual cursor, because it
> needs to be on.
> > 4. Left click and that should bring things into focus. You are now
> presented with a web page type of view where you can search by typing
> a search phrase into the edit box, or choosing a genre from the combo > box.
> Note you'll need to turn forms mode on before you search, and off
> after you search. I also had to press insert escape to refresh the
> screen, but it definitely worked and I was able to find the comedy
> genre and find a station. pressing enter on the link launches a
> station. Note for some reason, JAWS will say, this page link before
> everything.
> Give it a try and let me know how you guys get on. if we explain to
> Nullsoft that adding the title attribute to the links may make things
> speak a little better, I think we may be getting somewhere.
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