RE: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library

  • From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:28:19 +1000

Hi Jimm,

I'll take the ones you did.   I don't really want to deal with FS.  Also,
the folks at winamp might actually fix the problem in a future version.
I'll send them to you when I have modified the ones from the jfwlite site.

-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR.
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 10:33 PM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library

Well it seems to me that you should update the fs scripts.
For jaws 8 and see if they will run on earlier versions.
Like 7 and 6 
So scence you are working on the problem as far as I am concerned this is a
done deal.
Then send the updated code to fs and some web site where they can be had. 
If you still want the ones I updated they can be had at
http://www.jfwlite.com


-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Truong
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:45 PM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library


Hi,

Like Jim says, the fix is easy and I have put the necessary code into my
version of the winamp scripts and the library is reading great. But with so
many incarnations of the winamp script distributions floating around, I
don't know which set of Winamp scripts to implement my fix to.  Maybe Jim if
you sent me yours I could fix them?

David Truong.


-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mac Norins
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 6:28 AM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library

Time for Jim Grimsby or David Truong to chime in!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library


hi Bruce,
actually this library problem doesn't border me either, but just for the 
sake of helping others might need it. i just ask a sighted friend and she
told me that the library is looks different because of the 
graphic, so i think this can be solf by modify the jaws
script but too bad i have no knoledge in this area. so, before we take the 
steps that talk to the developer, i think we should ask
some one that expert in jaws scripting to assist us in this problem. just a 
thought.

Warmest Regards,

Allan Wong
3M Technology

** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my 
native, I'm sorry.

From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>


I've done a little investigating on my own here. I truly want to help with
respect to the library. It's not an issue I personally have an interest i,
but it's important to enough people that I want to be a part of the
solution. Someone's going to have to break down and get sighted assistance
for this.

First, register for the forums. You'll need sighted help here. Then send a
private e-mail to one of the moderators of the tech support forum. Tha
person likely isn't going to be able to help you directly, but you have to
start somewhere. Very nicely, tell that person who you are and why you're
writing. Tell them that the visual verification makes the forums
inaccessible to us without sighted assistance, but that there's no other
apparent way to contact the people in charge of the program. Tell the
person, nicely, that there are still accessibility issues with the Winamp
library, explaining that these accessibility issues make the Winamp library
unusable for us. Don't just assume that your concepts are understood without
explanation. Don't be condescending either, of course. Ask ther person
nicely if it would be possible for them to arrange for you to directly
contact a developer, so you can help try to track down what the
accessibility problems are and how best to fix them. Emphasize that you want
to work with these people as part of the solution, not just complain about
the problem. Whoever does this should be a techie, someone who knows what
blind people want from the Winamp library, and someone who knows how to talk
the computer language of the sighted. This is how things get done. No we
can't directly contact a developer right now. But everyone has a chain of
communication, and if we can access a link on the chain, we can eventually
reach the end of it.

Bruce

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