Re: Re[2]: The Future of Winamp
- From: <petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:44:16 -0800 (PST)
And the library feature will become a subscription based
service. Wait and see. Just my opinion.
--- Chris Skarstad <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I bet it'll be adds in the free version, but maybe if you buy
> pro no adds?
> hmmm.
>
>
> At 05:20 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote:
> >If they don't release any more versions we certainly have a
> fine product in
> >winamp5.05. There's always improvements that we can think of
> with any
> >software but There fortunately is not much left for them to
> do. I bet Aol's
> >minor improvements will mean ads in future versions.
> >
> >
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> >On 11/10/2004 at 5:34 PM Rob Robinson wrote:
> >
> > >Well, this news definitely isn't surprising. None the less,
> I don't think
> > >this is world shattering news though, because of one simple
> point, at
> >least
> > >we won't have to worry about trying to keep up to the
> current version any
> > >more. Ever since assholes on line took over, the
> development has never
> >been
> > >the same. Gee, I wonder if, seeing as how there might not
> be any more
> > >development of winamp, if AOL will still take our money for
> the purchase
> >of
> > >winamp pro?LOL! Well, here's hopin' for the best![thumbs up
> winampers!]
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >Robert Robinson
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> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Andrea Sherry" <sherryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: "Winamp 4 The Blind" <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:11 PM
> > >Subject: The Future of Winamp
> > >
> > >
> > >> From an article on the Betanews site:
> > >> Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
> > >> By
> > >> Nate Mook
> > >> , BetaNews
> > >> November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
> > >> The last members of the original Winamp team have said
> goodbye to AOL
> >and
> > >the door
> > >> has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has
> learned.
> > >> Only a few employees remain to prop up the
> once-ubiquitous digital audio
> > >player with
> > >> minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are
> expected.
> > >> \
> > >> Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to
> the company who
> > >say
> > >the software
> > >> has been on life support since the resignation of
> Nullsoft founder and
> > >Winamp creator
> > >> Justin Frankel last January.
> > >> The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of
> discontent. After AOL
> > >acquired
> > >> the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the
> young team of
> > >Winamp developers
> > >> was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that
> begged for
> > >rebellion.
> > >Although
> > >> Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It
> wasn't long until
> > >the
> > >two ideologies
> > >> collided.
> > >> Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply
> brainstorming ideas over
> > >coffee and
> > >> bringing them to the masses without approval. So when
> Frankel and fellow
> > >Nullsoft
> > >> developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer
> file sharing
> > >system, dubbed
> > >> Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
> > >> Gnutella was unveiled
> > >> in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL;
> executives
> > >feared the program
> > >> would encourage copyright infringement and damage the
> company's pending
> > >merger with
> > >> Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but
> not before the
> > >software's
> > >> source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon
> followed, igniting
> >a
> > >peer-to-peer
> > >> land grab that has yet to subside.
> > >> But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a
> profit from the
> > >freely available
> > >> Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water
> numerous times,
> > >but
> > >always
> > >> escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the
> wrist.
> > >> However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with
> Nullsoft's
> > >unsanctioned
> > >> release of WASTE
> > >> -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003.
> Frankel
> >threatened
> > >to resign
> > >> after AOL
> > >> removed WASTE
> > >> , but remained with the company long enough to finish
> Winamp 5.0.
> > >> Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure
> of Nullsoft's
> > >San
> > >Francisco
> > >> offices in December 2003.
> > >> With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber
> numbers and
> > >> 700 additional layoffs
> > >> planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted
> away from
> > >supporting acquisitions
> > >> such as Winamp.
> > >> Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former
> masterminds are proud of
> > >their accomplishments.
> > >> Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts
> an incredible
> > >60
> > >million
> > >> users per month.
> > >> After a disappointing
> > >> Winamp3
> > >> , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and
> completed
> > >long-standing goals
> > >> with the release of
> > >> Winamp 5.0
> > >> in late 2003.
> > >> Nullsoft's
> > >> Shoutcast
> > >> , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is
> called "the
> >Net's
> > >best secret"
> > >> by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000
> simultaneous users
> > >accounting for
> > >> 70 million hours of listening each month.
> > >> For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp,
> stating it is "a
> > >thriving
> > >> product that AOL continues to support and will continue
> to support."
> > >> But without those who poured their heart and soul into
> building the
> > >software, Winamp
> > >> seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio
> player
> > >> Sonique
> > >> , after Lycos saw the departure of its development team.
> Sonique has
> > >stagnated for
> > >> years, and development ceased altogether last March.
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