Re: Re[2]: The Future of Winamp
- From: "arlene" <nedster66@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:57:42 -0800
Me too I hope they keep on going! I happen to like using winamp. I don't
want to see it end. Not that it will but I'll keep on using it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Governor Staten" <govsta@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Future of Winamp
> There's a good reason why my friends and I call it AOHell. I hope they
> don't
> screw it up too much, and barring that, I hope the plug-in development
> keeps
> on going.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "arlene" <nedster66@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 0:40
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Future of Winamp
>
>
> hmm good question!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: The Future of Winamp
>
>
>>I bet it'll be adds in the free version, but maybe if you buy pro no adds?
>> hmmm.
>>
>>
>> At 05:20 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote:
>>>If they don't release any more versions we certainly have a fine product
>>>in
>>>winamp5.05. There's always improvements that we can think of with any
>>>software but There fortunately is not much left for them to do. I bet
>>>Aol's
>>>minor improvements will mean ads in future versions.
>>>
>>>
>>>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>>>
>>>On 11/10/2004 at 5:34 PM Rob Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>> >Well, this news definitely isn't surprising. None the less, I don't
>>> >think
>>> >this is world shattering news though, because of one simple point, at
>>>least
>>> >we won't have to worry about trying to keep up to the current version
>>> >any
>>> >more. Ever since assholes on line took over, the development has never
>>>been
>>> >the same. Gee, I wonder if, seeing as how there might not be any more
>>> >development of winamp, if AOL will still take our money for the
>>> >purchase
>>>of
>>> >winamp pro?LOL! Well, here's hopin' for the best![thumbs up winampers!]
>>> >
>>> >Sincerely,
>>> >Robert Robinson
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "Andrea Sherry" <sherryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >To: "Winamp 4 The Blind" <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:11 PM
>>> >Subject: The Future of Winamp
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> From an article on the Betanews site:
>>> >> Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
>>> >> By
>>> >> Nate Mook
>>> >> , BetaNews
>>> >> November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
>>> >> The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
>>>and
>>> >the door
>>> >> has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
>>> >> Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
>>> >> audio
>>> >player with
>>> >> minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
>>> >> \
>>> >> Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company
>>> >> who
>>> >say
>>> >the software
>>> >> has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder
>>> >> and
>>> >Winamp creator
>>> >> Justin Frankel last January.
>>> >> The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
>>> >> AOL
>>> >acquired
>>> >> the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
>>> >Winamp developers
>>> >> was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
>>> >rebellion.
>>> >Although
>>> >> Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long
>>> >> until
>>> >the
>>> >two ideologies
>>> >> collided.
>>> >> Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas
>>> >> over
>>> >coffee and
>>> >> bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
>>> >> fellow
>>> >Nullsoft
>>> >> developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file
>>> >> sharing
>>> >system, dubbed
>>> >> Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
>>> >> Gnutella was unveiled
>>> >> in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
>>> >feared the program
>>> >> would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's
>>> >> pending
>>> >merger with
>>> >> Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
>>> >software's
>>> >> source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed,
>>> >> igniting
>>>a
>>> >peer-to-peer
>>> >> land grab that has yet to subside.
>>> >> But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
>>> >> the
>>> >freely available
>>> >> Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous
>>> >> times,
>>> >but
>>> >always
>>> >> escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
>>> >> However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
>>> >unsanctioned
>>> >> release of WASTE
>>> >> -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
>>>threatened
>>> >to resign
>>> >> after AOL
>>> >> removed WASTE
>>> >> , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
>>> >> Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of
>>> >> Nullsoft's
>>> >San
>>> >Francisco
>>> >> offices in December 2003.
>>> >> With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
>>> >> 700 additional layoffs
>>> >> planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
>>> >supporting acquisitions
>>> >> such as Winamp.
>>> >> Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud
>>> >> of
>>> >their accomplishments.
>>> >> Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an
>>> >> incredible
>>> >60
>>> >million
>>> >> users per month.
>>> >> After a disappointing
>>> >> Winamp3
>>> >> , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
>>> >long-standing goals
>>> >> with the release of
>>> >> Winamp 5.0
>>> >> in late 2003.
>>> >> Nullsoft's
>>> >> Shoutcast
>>> >> , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
>>>Net's
>>> >best secret"
>>> >> by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
>>> >accounting for
>>> >> 70 million hours of listening each month.
>>> >> For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is
>>> >> "a
>>> >thriving
>>> >> product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
>>> >> But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
>>> >software, Winamp
>>> >> seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
>>> >> Sonique
>>> >> , after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
>>> >stagnated for
>>> >> years, and development ceased altogether last March.
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