> It's just because I am a little bit curious -> > Do you know ( average ) how many people are using wily ? > (Download statistic ) I doubt downloads == real users, or is even close. =) I know I downloaded it years ago, and didn't grok it at all (i.e., didn't use it). It wasn't until I started reading all the Plan 9 documents that I started using wily, and I had to really force myself to explore the new way of doing things instead of just starting up emacs for complicated tasks. Jim