Hey, everybody. While, Jeff D. might have a lot to say, he certainly doesn't have a lot to show for himself since 2000. In fact, he probably has less to show for himself, professionally and critically, than he ever has. The last few lines of the article pretty much sum him up: <snip> Another person asked, "Can you be in this class and not really understand technology?" "Absolutely," Mr. Dachis replied, reminiscing about his days as a chief executive. "The great thing about Razorfish is that we didn't know about what we were doing." </snip> BUT, and this is where Jeff D. is maybe interesting, what happened to all of the smart thinkers about the Web, information, and new technology? Just as design has taken it on the lips for being "dumbed down" these past 3 years, it seems that few people will risk asking the larger contextual questions -- Where is the Web going (besides to PDAs)? What will the Web look like in 2005 and 2010? Where did the thought get lost in the hype? Andrew. -- Andrew Boardman MANOVERBOARD. http://www.manoverboard.com T 718 809-2085 F 718 504-4070 > From: Lee Semel <lsemel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:24:01 -0400 > To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [webproducers] Re: the latest word of Jeff Dachis... > > Agree. Get someone who has survived the dot com era and has continued to > prosper today. Teach the students what it really takes to succeed in the new > media industry when the economy isn't in a bubble and VC's aren't handing out > cash, and when delivering real work with real benefits to real clients is what > matters most. > > At 08:29 PM 9/15/2003, you wrote: > >> i dunno...letting egomaniacs teach a class is not a direction >> worth pursuing. >> >> i'm telling you, the new school is better off getting a few >> survivors from the dot com era who did more than BS VCs and play >> buzzword bingo with dumb ass clients to teach classes. in most >> cases they know what they're talking about. being at the right >> time at the right place doesn't make one a visionary...it makes >> them lucky. >> >> >> >> >> --- Michael Randazzo <randazzm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> The New York Times weighs in on Jeff and his "New School" >>> class. >>> >>> Curious what your thoughts are on this; I like to think that >>> this >>> represents a potential new direction for The New School... >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/15/technology/15jeff.html >>> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >>> subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> To access our webform to subscribe, unsubscribe, and manage >>> your subscription (digest and vacation) visit >>> www.WebProducers.org. >>> >>> The WPO list is a public discussion forum with a public >>> archive at www.WebProducers.org. 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