I can answer the other half of the question. The wave and CD Player faders are generated within kmixer on XP, and are on the input side of that mixer. Your driver receives the output of kmixer and so never sees those faders. Out of interest, the Wave fader gets set by the waveOutSetVolume function, as well as being visible to applications using the mixer API. Of course on Vista and Windows 7 everything is different. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Newsham To: wdmaudiodev Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: msvad mixer -- where's the pan? answer on "pan" here (still not sure on the cd/wave sliders): http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms790303.aspx On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Tim Newsham <tim.newsham@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: When I load the msvad "simple" example in winxp, load the audio mixer and select the vad device, I get a mixer with four slider controls. The "Speaker" slider doesn't support mute or balance. The MIDI slider has the balance swung full to the left, and it will swing back to the left anytime the volume slider is used. The other two sliders "Wave" and "CD Player" dont seem to cause any callbacks into the msvad device. If I run the KsStudio tool I can select the master volume node in the topology filter and individually edit left, right and master volumes independantly. Why does the mixer think there is only one audio channel? Why are the "Wave" and "CD Player" sliders present while not appearing to affect the msvad driver? What is the proper way to indicate that a volume node should support left and right channels? TimN