[wdmaudiodev] Re: Help installing custom sAPO for a USB audio device

  • From: Matthew van Eerde <Matthew.van.Eerde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 00:38:53 +0000

> RegisterDlls

Don’t use RegisterDlls; instead, declare all your COM registrations statically 
via AddReg.

> My understanding is that these are migrated to the 
> MMDevices/Audio/Capture/{EP Guid} key...but they don't seem to be

Did you confirm that the jack sub type of this particular device is 

> HKR,"FX\\0",%PKEY_MFX_ProcessingModes_Supported_For_Streaming%,0x00010000,%AUDIO_SIGNALPROCESSINGMODE_DEFAULT%

Since you only have a stream effect, you should only set the _SFX_ streaming 
property. Remove the _MFX_ one.

HKLM/SYSTEM/ccs/Control/DeviceClasses/{Audio Class GUID}/{device 
entry}/#GLOBAL/Device Parameters/MSFX

What about Device Parameters/FX/0? Are your properties getting this far?

From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Davis
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 4:26 PM
To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Help installing custom sAPO for a USB audio device

Ok, So I've had a chance to try this, and so far I'm still not having luck 
getting my sAPO loaded.  Here are a few observations I've made.

- When using the inbox usbaudio driver for my microphone (just trying to learn 
more about how this works), I see sAPO effects registered under 
HKLM/SYSTEM/ccs/Control/DeviceClasses/{Audio Class GUID}/{device 
entry}/#GLOBAL/Device Parameters/MSFX.  My understanding is that these are 
migrated to the MMDevices/Audio/Capture/{EP Guid} key...but they don't seem to 
be.  Consequently the effects registered for the microphone by default (looks 
like they're in wmalfxgfxdsp.dll) are not loaded.  Are these disabled by 
default maybe?

- Regardless, I tried changing my .inf file to use KSNODETYPE_MICROPHONE 
instead of KSNODETYPE_ANY, and that didn't seem to have an effect (keys not 
migrated to MMDevices, sAPO dll not loaded by audiodg process).

Here's the .inf file I'm using.  I have a feeling there's probably something 
else basic that I'm missing.

Thank you so much for your help!


Signature="$Windows NT$"



SfxFx.CopyList=11     ; %windir%\system32

%MfgName%=MfgModelSection, NT$ARCH$


Include = ks.inf, wdmaudio.inf, wdma_usb.inf
Needs = KS.Registration, WDMAUDIO.Registration, USBAudioOEM.CopyFiles, 

; Do I need anything here?  wdma_usb.inf doesn't seem to have a .HW section


AddReg = TestAudio.SysFx.PrimaryMicWave.AddReg


AddReg = TestAudio.PrimaryMicTopo.AddReg, SysFx.AddReg


Include = wdma_usb.inf
Needs = USBAudio.NT.Services

;; Not exactly sure what this does, but wdma_usb.inf does it...


;; Note: We have to associate with a specific node type here (ie. not
;; use KSNODETYPE_ANY) or else the MSFX entries in wdma_usb.inf will
;; override our entries here.

;; I think Win 8.l uses StreamEffectsClsid instead of PreMixClsid




ProviderName="Test Provider Name"
MfgName="Test MFG Name"
DiskDescription="Installation Media"
TestMic.DeviceDesc = "Test Microphone with Basic Filtering"

KSNAME_WaveMicIn = "WaveMicIn"
KSNAME_TopologyMicIn = "TopologyMicIn"

PrimaryMicWaveDeviceName  = "Test Microphone"
PrimaryMicTopoDeviceName  = "Test Microphone Topo"

PKEY_SYSFX_Association          = "{D04E05A6-594B-4FB6-A80D-01AF5EED7D1D},0"
PKEY_SYSFX_PreMixClsid          = "{D04E05A6-594B-4FB6-A80D-01AF5EED7D1D},1"
PKEY_ItemNameDisplay            = "{B725F130-47EF-101A-A5F1-02608C9EEBAC},10"

PKEY_SYSFX_StreamEffectClsid   = "{D04E05A6-594B-4fb6-A80D-01AF5EED7D1D},5"

SYSFX_PREMIX_CLSID  = "{B48DEA3F-D962-425a-8D9A-9A5BB37A9904}"
SYSFX_FriendlyName  = "Test Microphone Filter Effect"

KSCATEGORY_AUDIO    = "{6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196}"
KSCATEGORY_CAPTURE  = "{65E8773D-8F56-11D0-A3B9-00A0C9223196}"
KSCATEGORY_REALTIME = "{EB115FFC-10C8-4964-831D-6DCB02E6F23F}"
KSCATEGORY_TOPOLOGY = "{DDA54A40-1E4C-11D1-A050-405705C10000}"

KSNODETYPE_ANY   = "{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}"
KSNODETYPE_MICROPHONE = "{DFF21BE1-F70F-11D0-B917-00A0C9223196}"

Proxy.CLSID         = "{17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}"

PKEY_SFX_ProcessingModes_Supported_For_Streaming = 
PKEY_MFX_ProcessingModes_Supported_For_Streaming = 

PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association = "{1DA5D803-D492-4EDD-8C23-E0C0FFEE7F0E},2"

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Justin Davis 
<justindvs@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:justindvs@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thank you so much for the explanation Matthew!  That makes sense (I was using 

I'll give the specific category a try and report back.


On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Matthew van Eerde 
<Matthew.van.Eerde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Matthew.van.Eerde@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Here’s how effects property registration works, in general.

Before registering the KSCATEGORY_AUDIO device interface, set your desired 
properties with any of the following prefixes:

1.       MSFX\n with PKEY_FX_Assocation = KSNODETYPE_ANY, or

2.       FX\n with PKEY_FX_Assocation = KSNODETYPE_ANY, or

3.       MSFX\n with PKEY_FX_Association = KSPIN_DESCRIPTOR.Category where the 
pin descriptor is for the pin factory on the hardware end of the signal path, or

4.       FX\n with PKEY_FX_Association = KSPIN_DESCRIPTOR.Category where the 
pin descriptor is for the pin factory on the hardware end of the signal path

Stores higher up in the list are overridden by stores lower down in the list.

Only Microsoft inbox drivers should use MSFX\n. This allows third-party drivers 
to use FX\n and override them. You should use FX\n.

wdma_usb.inf uses PKEY_FX_Association = KSPIN_DESCRIPTOR.Category:
; wdma_usb.inf

So you will need to use FX\0 with a PKEY_FX_Association = 
KSPIN_DESCRIPTOR.Category yourself, or be overridden by the more specific 
MSFX\n match.

> I'm pretty sure those keys need to be installed as part of an "AddInterface" 
> statement

That’s correct; they should be under the “.AddReg” section from an 
AddInterface=… KSCATEGORY_AUDIO … interface.

From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
 On Behalf Of Justin Davis
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 3:44 PM
To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Help installing custom sAPO for a USB audio device

Hi all,

I've developed drivers for a number of years, but I'm a newbie to audio drivers.

I'm dipping my toes in the water by trying to install a custom sAPO (the swap 
example) for a standard USB microphone (and USB headphones at some point too).

I've read up on as much info as I can find and I've tried several examples.  
I've had success building and installing the "slate audio" example from the WDK 
8.1 samples.

However, I'm having problems adapting this example to my simple USB audio 
device.  I really just want to use the standard USBAudio.sys driver but 
supplement it with my sAPO.  I think I have the proper "Include" and "Needs" 
section to pull that stuff in from the wdma_usb.inf file.

I think the root of my problem is with putting the right sAPO registration data 
in the registry.  I've generally tried to follow the guidance from this page 
(and the Vista Audio Effects white paper):

However, it uses lots of INF fragments with HKR, which is relative to how you 
get to that INF section.  So it's not 100% clear where those are supposed to 
go.  Through looking at the example, I'm pretty sure those keys need to be 
installed as part of an "AddInterface" statement...but again it's not 100% 

My problem is that I install via my INF, and I can see the registry keys get 
installed to what looks like the proper locations.  But...it sounds like the 
installation process is supposed to migrate the sAPO registration data to 
another section (below), and this step doesn't appear to be happening.


I've found that if I manually hack the above keys to point to my sAPO, it seems 
to work (I see my sAPO getting loaded in the audiodg process and my 
APOProcess() function is being called).  However...I know I'm not supposed to 
hack those keys manually, the INF file is supposed to do something that causes 
the keys to be migrated there.  It's just not clear on what's going wrong in 
that process.

I'm not at my work machine right now so I can't copy the INF file I've been 
working with (I'll add that on Monday).

But any advice on how to troubleshoot this would be greatly appreciated!  I 
feel like what I'm trying to do should be simple, I'm just not familiar enough 
with the audio subsystem to know what to look for.

BTW, I've seen the "Troubleshooting sAPO Load Failures" page, and I do have 
DisableProtectedAudioDG set.  My problem isn't that my sAPO fails to load, it's 
that the system doesn't even try to load it (verified this in the debugger).

Thanks for your help!

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