To use the "Message" API calls Larry is talking about below implies that the programmer knows what custom messages are defined by the audio device manufacturer. This information is potentially unique to just that one device. Keep in mind these messages were designed when ISA and/or PCI audio board drivers were the norm. Since USB itself provides a different mechanism to achieve the same functionality, I would guess that Microsoft saw no need to implement these "Message" APIs for USB audio devices. So... what is the mechanism for sending custom messages to a USB audio device? Since a USB audio device is defined as a composite device it has an interface to the audio stack for streaming audio and a control interface for commands (like volume up/down, etc.). It can also have a HID interface. The Microsoft USB audio class drivers take care of sending and receiving the standard audio control messages but additional custom HID Reports can be defined by the audio device firmware. For instance, a USB pipe can be configured to accept HID messages from the PC. Also, another USB pipe can be configured to send events/messages back to the PC. If a developer knows what HID Reports are defined for a particular USB Audio device, then by definition there is now a mechanism to exchange custom information with the device. -Chris Perry From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Osterman Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:02 PM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Control Tranfers using Winmm.dll to a USB device In general, the MME messages (waveInMessage, waveOutMessage, mixerMessage, midiMessage, etc) are used to communicate out-of-band information between applications and the relevant "driver" in the user mode stack (in XP some messages went into wdmaud.sys, I believe, but that was it). They have never gone into the various audio drivers, and as far as I know, there has never been a mechanism to allow user mode drivers to pass USB verbs directly onto the USB bus (I may be wrong here, I'm not a driver guy). From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elios Elios Elios Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:14 AM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Control Tranfers using Winmm.dll to a USB device Hello! Does anyone know how to send control transfer and request to an USB audio device using the winmm.dll API? I tried with waveInMessage, but it didn't work. Thanks! ________________________________ Excursiones y escapadas a sitios mágicos. No te lo pierdas en MSN Entretenimiento <http://g.msn.com/8HMBESES/2734??PS=47575> ****************** WDMAUDIODEV addresses: Post message: mailto:wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe: mailto:wdmaudiodev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe Unsubscribe: mailto:wdmaudiodev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe Moderator: mailto:wdmaudiodev-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx URL to WDMAUDIODEV page: http://www.wdmaudiodev.com/