As a post script to my previous email, I thought that it may think I've got a different screenreader loaded, so I did the described tests on all screenreaders whilst jaws was loaded. I get the same (this time correct) result for dolphin, nvda, and window eyes. Best, David. _____ From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: 29 June 2012 14:13 To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [visurfacereader] Re: Application configuration Hi, Two points: 1 - Use a descriptive name for your configuration (for example, Sonar instead of Sonarpdr) - we don't do anything like trying to match against application .exe names or do foreground loading (mainly because we couldn't find a method to make it work on the Mac - another future version feature, maybe); 2 - We restrict you to only being able to create/edit actions for the screen reader you're currently using. The reasoning behind this will become apparent when you see what we're doing in Beta 5, but suffice to say that, if you're running NVDA, you can't do anything in the Jaws branch, etc.. Please tell me that you weren't running Jaws when you get the error about not being able to change Jaws actions. If you were, I'll need a keystroke by keystroke method of reproducing the behaviour in order to fix it. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Reynolds Sent: 29 June 2012 13:30 To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [visurfacereader] Re: Application configuration Hi again, I'm having a problem understanding what I need to do at this point. I go for File/new/application configuration. I then type the name of the app, i.e. sonarpdr. I get a tree view. I found VPot1 in the tree, opened it, and found jaws. I then clicked Add. I got an error saying it could only use the loaded screen reader. Any advice welcome, David. _____ From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] <mailto:%5bmailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d> On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: 29 June 2012 12:55 To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [visurfacereader] Re: Application configuration Hi Dave, See my other post. The essential point here is that "Edit" means exactly that - there's got to be something loaded before you can edit it. I must admit that I couldn't quite decide how/where to put the application configuration stuff, so it's split between the File and Edit menus. I suppose I could create an AppConfig menu with Add. and Properties. entries below it, though I could also argue that I should add App Config as an option to the Surfaces menu, showing it as a sub-menu with Add. and Properties. options below it. Which makes most sense from a users perspective? Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] <mailto:%5bmailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5d> On Behalf Of David Reynolds Sent: 29 June 2012 12:30 To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [visurfacereader] Application configuration Hello, I decided to settle down and test the application configuration section, but I can't get into it. I select my control surface, and select edit/application configuration from the menu. The program crashes on an unhandled exception. The exception is caught however, so this may be some code that has been left in by accident. Perhaps I have done something wrong, Best, David.