hi paul, turned on the computer this morning, and following your instructions headed for the AVG virus vault, would you believe it, i found four monsters in there, and one was entitled "play girls" could i be accused of having "porn" on my computer?? [smile] got rid of the beasts, re-booted my computer, and tonight, [i'm supposed to be going to the match between bray wanderers and derry city] but if this rain keeps up i'll stay home and run a virus check on my computer, if not, i'll do it over the weekend, one of the viruses has been sleeping there since last year according to the date, but so far, i am now squeaky clean [as far as my computer is concerned anyway] thanks for the help, travel safely, joe.