Hi Joe, See you got your answer, the two fingers! (smile) You sound like that it's fun for you learning the iPhone! A great approach indeed learning technology is to make it enjoyable too and not always such a drag! Tap on! Best, Tony Sweeney ----- Original Message ----- From: joe bollard To: vip students Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: [vip_students] mobile corner a couple of questions hello friends, i am making steady headway with my i phone, got myself a braille pen slim keyboard, it's a braille keyboard set up for the i phone, somewhat expensive but worth it, now, my problems, when leaving a message on the person i am calling having left my message the phone doesn't seem to hang up, i slide, i tap, i swear, etc but the message box is still open and stays that way for about three minutes, before the eircom lady comes in to tell me the message time is ended, and secondly, when my phone rings, i slide, to answer, it keeps on ringing, i tap, it keeps on ringing , i slide again, it keeps on ringing, i tap again, it keeps on ringing, i swear again, it keeps on ringing, eventually the caller has to leave a message, what am i doing wrong, but it's good fun, although we've installed a swear box in our house, and who's the greatest contributor???? take care, travel safely, joe.