hi paul, thanks for the message, and thank you also for all the help you have given me during the past year, rest assured your pbone will be ringing quite often during the coming year with a pleading voice from me at the other end not alone is your knowledge and assistance invaluable to all of us on this list, but your patience and encouragement, your tolerance and understanding is tremendous, thank you again, i was so sorry to hear about dick's illness, he is a fine musician, we had many long chats about music when we met, if there was a gathering of blind people at any function and dick was there, if he discovered that i was in the room he made it his business to find me and chat, let's hope he makes it, thanks again paul, and a happy and stress free new year to all on this great list, travel safely, joe bollard. ,