Susan, See what you mean! Most folk I know don't use the phone facility (iPhone) anyway :) !Now if you don't want to keep C5 option and if that's what you want, good for you and you go the iPhone route good luck in whatever direction you choose.
Out of this thread now! Best, Tony Sweeney----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx>
To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones
hi tony,sorry maybe I mislaid you the c5 is just a bog standard phone with the ordinary keyboard.I think if I had a lend of an I phone for a couple of days I think I could conquer it.susan----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:12 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phonesSusan, A possible final question from me on this thread.Just curious how one accesses the "keyboard" on the C5 as of course there is no querty?I mean if you say tap the screen for example then you are on the way to starting to learn iPhone I would have thought, or maybe I'm wrong!Cheers and keep on truckin! Tony----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phoneshi tony,I don't really do a awful lot on my phone, just the basic things like texting, reminders, notes, calling friends and family. I use the alarm clock every morning also.I don't go on the internet or send emails.I find all you on the list very adventurous and admire you immensely, just the way you take the bull by the horns and go for it, the way you tackle different things on the computer and with those I phones.Susan----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phonesSusan, C5 sounds good for you I glean.Now whuy not sometime (when you get sorted( you just give a few pointers as to why the C5 suits you; no not a mini- tutorial of it unless that's what you might want to do.Am curious of no querty on the phone; haven't researched that! Best, Tony Sweeney----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phoneshi tony,no I've never had a phone lost through Vodafone before. yes we have legal aid up here but I hope it doesn't come to that, Vodafone are still looking for a c5 for me so this indicates to me that they have taken responsibility for my phone going missing.I went to our local apple shop and we were shown an I phone the 4s, the screen was very sensitive if you touched it at all it started to jabber away, I know if I had it for 2 or 3 days I would probably conquer it but I would still have the c5, I don't use my phone for the internet or any thing like that, I only use my phone for texting, calling folk, reminder and the alarm.susan----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:24 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phonesEvening Susan,Coincidentally just reading Dorothy's forwarded piece on iPhone and I tell you I'm learning more about it every second I read!Susan did they not lose another phone of yours before, don't let them fob you off, I'm sure there are consumer rights up North as they are down here.Do you have say Free Legal Aid up there or do you have a good solicitor to talk to; not satisfactory at all for such a high profile company to go losing phones on their customers if that's the case.Yes go all out to have that C5 replaced or to be properly compensated.Will consider iPhone (or whatever is around) when my laptop kicks the bucket.It is an expensive phone to buy and the plans are not cheap either but if one is happy with that well that's fine indeed.Yes think that it might be no harm to learn a bit about iPhone before a possible purchase, well that's my penny's worth anyway.Best,Tony Sweeney----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phoneshi tony,I totally agree with you I'll have to give it some serious thought, I'm afraid I'm a creature of habit and hate change, or should I say afraid of change?no harm to maybe go and have a look at an I phone and hopefully that will decide me. I loved my c5 and would love to get it back or be able to buy another one, some times I think one has to bite the bullet and move with the times.Susan----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 2:41 AM Subject: [vip_students] Thoughts of phonesHi, iPhone is a different learning curve.Consider what you now have (or had) carefully and decide then to take "the jump" if you wish.Think that I saw something of C5 on this list being lost, Vodafone before!Best, Tony Sweeney----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.darke@xxxxxxx>To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:13 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: picking your brainsHi SusanI am very interested in the iPhone too as my Nokia N70 is having the abdabsand cutting out so I am looking for another phone.I went into the Vodafone shop near us and the chap said E5-00 and E7-00which both have qwerty keyboards.Also he said to go into the Apple Shop and ask them to let me feel the iPhone then it will give me an idea how it works and he would order me one.I have just been on the Apple Web Site and below is some information which Ifound which could be helpful to you. Hope this helps, Dorothy. VisionThe revolutionary iPhone also includes an equally revolutionary screen reader, and other innovative accessibility features that make it easier touse for those with impaired vision. VoiceOverThe same VoiceOver screen reader made popular on the Mac is now a standard feature on iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS. It's the world's first gesture-based screen reader, enabling you to enjoy the fun and simplicity ofiPhone even if you can't see the screen.What makes VoiceOver on iPhone truly remarkable is that you control it using simple gestures that let you physically interact with items on screen. It's easy to learn and fun to use. Instead of memorizing hundreds of keyboard commands, or endlessly pressing tiny arrow keys to find what you're looking for, with VoiceOver, you simply touch the screen to hear a description of the item under your finger, then gesture with a double-tap, drag, or flickto control the phone.VoiceOver delivers an experience unlike any screen reader you've ever used before. Traditional screen readers describe individual elements on the screen, but struggle to communicate where each element is located or provide information about adjoining objects. This contextual information is very important but typically filtered out by other screen readers. For example, "off-screen" models used by traditional screen readers to represent applications and web pages intentionally strip away contextual information and describe web pages as a list or menu of items. But with VoiceOver on iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS, you'll experience something entirelynew.Because VoiceOver works with the iPhone touchscreen, you interact directly with objects on the screen and can naturally understand their location and context. So, when you touch the upper-left corner of the screen, you'll hear what's in the upper left corner of a web page, and as you drag your finger around the screen, you'll learn what's nearby, providing an amazing new sense of context and relationship between the items you hear. For many, VoiceOver on iPhone will provide, perhaps for the first time, a true sense of how things appear on screen, not just descriptions of what they are.You'll hear descriptions of every item on the screen, including status information such as battery level, Wi-Fi and cellular network signal levels, the cellular network provider, and time of day. It even lets you know when the display changes to landscape or portrait orientation, and when thescreen is locked or unlocked.The speaking rate is adjustable so you can set it to a speed that best suits your listening ability. VoiceOver uses distinctive sound effects to alert you when an application opens, when the screen is updated, when a message dialog appears, and more. And, when Voiceover is talking, the volume of background sounds and music is automatically lowered, "ducking" under thevoice, so you can clearly hear what VoiceOver is telling you. It speaks your languageVoiceOver includes built-in voices that speak 36 languages: Arabic, Chinese (Cantonese), Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Czech, Danish, Dutch, English (Australia), English (Britain), English (Irish), English (South African), English (United States), Finnish, Flemish (Belgian Dutch), French (Canadian), French (France), German, Greek, Hindi, Hungarian, Indonesian,Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil),Portuguese (Portugal), Romanian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish (Mexico), Spanish(Spain), Swedish, Thai, Turkish. Getting startedVoiceOver is built right into iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS. There's nothing extra to purchase or install. All you need is the latest version of iTunes and a Mac or PC. You can activate your iPhone and enable VoiceOver without sighted assistance using Setup Assistant. Sighted users can also enable VoiceOver for you directly on iPhone using the Accessibility menu inthe Settings application. 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Watch the VoiceOver video Entering textWhen you're typing text, such as an email message or a note, VoiceOver echoes each character on the keyboard as you touch it, and again to confirm when you enter it. You can also have VoiceOver speak each completed word instead of or in addition to individual characters as you type them. A flick up or down while typing moves the insertion point cursor left and right within the text so you can edit a word just as easily and precisely astyping a new word. To help you type more quickly and accurately, iPhone features word prediction and suggests the correct spelling when you type a wordincorrectly. With Speak Auto-text enabled, you'll hear a sound effect and the suggested word spoken automatically. You can just keep typing to ignoreit, or press the space key to have iPhone type it for you. The rotorVoiceOver features an innovative virtual control called a "rotor." Turning the rotor - by rotating two fingers on the screen as if you were turning an actual dial - changes the way VoiceOver moves through a document based on a setting you choose. For example, a flick up or down might move through text word by word. But when you choose the "character" setting, each time youflick up or down VoiceOver will move through the text character by character - perfect when you're proofreading or editing text.You can also use the rotor to navigate web pages. When you're on a web page, the rotor contains the names of common items, such as headers, links, form elements, images, and more. You select a setting, then flick up and down to move to the previous or next occurrence of that item on the page, skippingover items in between. ApplicationsVoiceOver works with all of the built-in applications that come on iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS, including Safari, Mail, App Store, iTunes, Music, Calendar, and Notes. And with the element labeler, you can create custom labels for buttons so it's even easier to place and receive calls, surf the web, text and email your friends, check your stocks and the weather, and more. Apple is also working with iPhone software developers sothey can make their applications VoiceOver compatible. Learn more Wireless braille displaysYou can use a refreshable braille display that uses Bluetooth wireless technology to read VoiceOver output in braille. In addition, braille displays with input keys and other controls can be used to control iPhone when VoiceOver is turned on. iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS work with many of the most popular wireless braille displays. View a list of supportedbraille displays SiriSiri on iPhone 4S lets you use your voice to send messages, place phone calls, schedule meetings, set reminders, and more. You can ask Siri to do things for you just by talking the way you talk. Siri understands what you say, knows what you mean, and even talks back. It's the intelligent assistant that's there to help with the things you do every day. iPhone 4S also takes dictation. Instead of typing, tap the microphone button on the keyboard, speak your words, numbers, or sentences out loud, and let iPhone convert your words into text. It's never been easier to write messages, takenotes, or search the web. Learn more about Siri ZoomWhile many iPhone applications let you zoom in and out specific elements such as images in Mail, or web page columns in Safari, Zoom lets you magnify the entire screen of any application you're using to help you see what's on the display. You can enable Zoom using iTunes when you're setting up iPhone, for yourself or someone else, or later, using the Accessibility menu in theSettings application on iPhone.Zoom works everywhere, including the Home, Lock, and Spotlight screens -even with applications you purchase from the App Store.A simple double-tap with three fingers instantly zooms in and out 200% and you can double-tap and drag three fingers to dynamically adjust the magnification between 100% and 500%. Even when zoomed, you can continue using all of the familiar flick, pinch, tap, and other iPhone gestures torun your favorite applications. White on BlackFor those who need or prefer higher contrast, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS provide an option to change the display to white on black. This reverse video effect works in all applications as well as the Home, Lock,and Spotlight screens and can be used with Zoom and VoiceOver. Speak SelectionWant to select text from websites, email, messages, and more? Speak Selection lets you highlight text in any application by double tapping it. Even if you don't have VoiceOver enabled, Speak Selection will read you the highlighted text and give you formatting options like cut, copy, and paste.Turn on Speak Selection in Settings. Tactile ButtonsiPhone includes a few, easily discernible physical buttons used to control the phone: the Sleep/Wake button, located on the top edge; the Ring/Silent switch and volume-control buttons, located on the upper-left edge; and theHome button, centered below the display. Large TextYou can increase the font size to see up to 56-point text in alerts,Calendar, Contacts, Mail, Messages, and Notes. iPhone Stereo HeadsetiPhone comes with a stereo headset with a high-performance microphone built into the cable. Plug it into the standard 3.5-mm stereo headphone jack, and the headset lets you control music playback and answer and end calls byclicking the microphone capsule.Several add-on products are also available to work with iPhone that can help those with hearing disabilities, including a hearing aid-compatible induction ear loop from TecEar, wireless remote headset from Oticon, andothers. Hands-Free SpeakerphoneEnjoy hands-free communication using the built-in speakerphone, which you can also use to listen to Visual Voicemail, music, podcasts, and video.Audible, Visible, and Vibrating AlertsTurn the ringer on and iPhone delivers both audible and visual alerts for phone calls, text messages, new and sent mail, and calendar events. Choose to have an LED light flash for incoming calls and alerts. Set incoming calls to display a full-screen image of the caller. Or select an audio option toconfirm keyboard actions.In silent mode, iPhone vibrates instead of playing a tone. And it's easy to know who's calling because you can select from different vibration patterns or create your own by tapping out custom patterns. To ensure that you nevermiss a notification, you can have iPhone play an audio alert, too. Downloadable, Assignable RingtonesYou can assign distinctive ringtones to individuals in your contacts list, using the ringtone as an audible caller ID. Visit the iTunes Store to create, purchase, and download additional ringtones of your favorite songs(sold separately). Accessible iPhone User GuideThe iPhone User Guide has been designed with accessibility in mind. Read the iPhone User Guide in HTML format using a web browser with your favorite screen reader on a Mac, PC, and iPhone. Or listen to the iPhone User Guide in ePub format using VoiceOver in the iBooks app on iPhone (iBooks and the user guide can be downloaded at no charge from the App Store and iBookstore, respectively). You can read the iPhone User Guide in tagged PDF format using the Preview application in OS X and Adobe Acrobat for Mac and Windows. If you can read English braille there's also an electronic braille version in .brf format. You can order an embossed copy of iPhone User Guide fromLighthouse for the Blind in San Francisco, California. Hearing-- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1778 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message