Brilliant hope it all works out for you. Do let us know Dusan on Friday if you get the phone. -----Original message----- From: Susan Curry Sent: 28/02/2012, 7:50 pm To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones Eleanor, I don't know what Vodafone are at but I got a call from them this evening at 10 past 6 to say that they have found a c5 for me and they will put the talks on and send it out to me and I shall receive it by Friday of this week. i do hope this is so, i'll not hold my breath. susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:22 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones Not Susan. The C5 is a numeric non touch screen and I have had Vodafone confirm that they have C5 in stock at a cost of £125 plus VAT. -----Original message----- From: tony sweeney Sent: 28/02/2012, 2:12 pm To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones Susan, A possible final question from me on this thread. Just curious how one accesses the "keyboard" on the C5 as of course there is no querty? I mean if you say tap the screen for example then you are on the way to starting to learn iPhone I would have thought, or maybe I'm wrong! Cheers and keep on truckin! Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones > hi tony, > > I don't really do a awful lot on my phone, just the basic things like > texting, reminders, notes, calling friends and family. I use the alarm > clock every morning also. > > I don't go on the internet or send emails. > > I find all you on the list very adventurous and admire you immensely, just > the way you take the bull by the horns and go for it, the way you tackle > different things on the computer and with those I phones. > > Susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:13 PM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones > > >> Susan, >> >> C5 sounds good for you I glean. >> >> Now whuy not sometime (when you get sorted( you just give a few pointers >> as to why the C5 suits you; no not a mini- tutorial of it unless that's >> what you might want to do. >> >> Am curious of no querty on the phone; haven't researched that! >> >> Best, >> >> Tony Sweeney >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx> >> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:56 PM >> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones >> >> >>> hi tony, >>> >>> no I've never had a phone lost through Vodafone before. yes we have >>> legal aid up here but I hope it doesn't come to that, Vodafone are still >>> looking for a c5 for me so this indicates to me that they have taken >>> responsibility for my phone going missing. >>> >>> I went to our local apple shop and we were shown an I phone the 4s, the >>> screen was very sensitive if you touched it at all it started to jabber >>> away, I know if I had it for 2 or 3 days I would probably conquer it but >>> I would still have the c5, I don't use my phone for the internet or any >>> thing like that, I only use my phone for texting, calling folk, reminder >>> and the alarm. >>> >>> susan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:24 PM >>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones >>> >>> >>>> Evening Susan, >>>> >>>> Coincidentally just reading Dorothy's forwarded piece on iPhone and I >>>> tell you I'm learning more about it every second I read! >>>> >>>> Susan did they not lose another phone of yours before, don't let them >>>> fob >>>> you off, I'm sure there are consumer rights up North as they are down >>>> here. >>>> >>>> Do you have say Free Legal Aid up there or do you have a good solicitor >>>> to talk to; not satisfactory at all for such a high profile company to >>>> go losing phones on their customers if that's the case. >>>> >>>> Yes go all out to have that C5 replaced or to be properly compensated. >>>> >>>> Will consider iPhone (or whatever is around) when my laptop kicks the >>>> bucket. >>>> >>>> It is an expensive phone to buy and the plans are not cheap either but >>>> if one is happy with that well that's fine indeed. >>>> >>>> Yes think that it might be no harm to learn a bit about iPhone before a >>>> possible purchase, well that's my penny's worth anyway. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Tony Sweeney----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Susan Curry" <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx> >>>> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:16 AM >>>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: Thoughts of phones >>>> >>>> >>>>> hi tony, >>>>> >>>>> I totally agree with you I'll have to give it some serious thought, >>>>> I'm afraid I'm a creature of habit and hate change, or should I say >>>>> afraid of change? >>>>> >>>>> no harm to maybe go and have a look at an I phone and hopefully that >>>>> will decide me. I loved my c5 and would love to get it back or be able >>>>> to buy another one, some times I think one has to bite the bullet and >>>>> move with the times. >>>>> >>>>> Susan >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 2:41 AM >>>>> Subject: [vip_students] Thoughts of phones >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> iPhone is a different learning curve. >>>>>> >>>>>> Consider what you now have (or had) carefully and decide then to take >>>>>> "the jump" if you wish. >>>>>> >>>>>> Think that I saw something of C5 on this list being lost, Vodafone >>>>>> before! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony Sweeney >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.darke@xxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:13 PM >>>>>> Subject: [vip_students] Re: picking your brains >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Susan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am very interested in the iPhone too as my Nokia N70 is having the >>>>>>> abdabs >>>>>>> and cutting out so I am looking for another phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went into the Vodafone shop near us and the chap said E5-00 and >>>>>>> E7-00 >>>>>>> which both have qwerty keyboards. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also he said to go into the Apple Shop and ask them to let me feel >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> iPhone then it will give me an idea how it works and he would order >>>>>>> me one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have just been on the Apple Web Site and below is some information >>>>>>> which I >>>>>>> found which could be helpful to you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dorothy. >>>>>>> Vision >>>>>>> The revolutionary iPhone also includes an equally revolutionary >>>>>>> screen >>>>>>> reader, and other innovative accessibility features that make it >>>>>>> easier to >>>>>>> use for those with impaired vision. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> VoiceOver >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The same VoiceOver screen reader made popular on the Mac is now a >>>>>>> standard >>>>>>> feature on iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS. It's the world's >>>>>>> first >>>>>>> gesture-based screen reader, enabling you to enjoy the fun and >>>>>>> simplicity of >>>>>>> iPhone even if you can't see the screen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What makes VoiceOver on iPhone truly remarkable is that you control >>>>>>> it using >>>>>>> simple gestures that let you physically interact with items on >>>>>>> screen. It's >>>>>>> easy to learn and fun to use. Instead of memorizing hundreds of >>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>> commands, or endlessly pressing tiny arrow keys to find what you're >>>>>>> looking >>>>>>> for, with VoiceOver, you simply touch the screen to hear a >>>>>>> description of >>>>>>> the item under your finger, then gesture with a double-tap, drag, or >>>>>>> flick >>>>>>> to control the phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> VoiceOver delivers an experience unlike any screen reader you've >>>>>>> ever used >>>>>>> before. Traditional screen readers describe individual elements on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> screen, but struggle to communicate where each element is located or >>>>>>> provide >>>>>>> information about adjoining objects. This contextual information is >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> important but typically filtered out by other screen readers. For >>>>>>> example, >>>>>>> "off-screen" models used by traditional screen readers to represent >>>>>>> applications and web pages intentionally strip away contextual >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> and describe web pages as a list or menu of items. But with >>>>>>> VoiceOver on >>>>>>> iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS, you'll experience something >>>>>>> entirely >>>>>>> new. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because VoiceOver works with the iPhone touchscreen, you interact >>>>>>> directly >>>>>>> with objects on the screen and can naturally understand their >>>>>>> location and >>>>>>> context. So, when you touch the upper-left corner of the screen, >>>>>>> you'll hear >>>>>>> what's in the upper left corner of a web page, and as you drag your >>>>>>> finger >>>>>>> around the screen, you'll learn what's nearby, providing an amazing >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> sense of context and relationship between the items you hear. For >>>>>>> many, >>>>>>> VoiceOver on iPhone will provide, perhaps for the first time, a true >>>>>>> sense >>>>>>> of how things appear on screen, not just descriptions of what they >>>>>>> are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'll hear descriptions of every item on the screen, including >>>>>>> status >>>>>>> information such as battery level, Wi-Fi and cellular network signal >>>>>>> levels, >>>>>>> the cellular network provider, and time of day. It even lets you >>>>>>> know when >>>>>>> the display changes to landscape or portrait orientation, and when >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> screen is locked or unlocked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The speaking rate is adjustable so you can set it to a speed that >>>>>>> best suits >>>>>>> your listening ability. VoiceOver uses distinctive sound effects to >>>>>>> alert >>>>>>> you when an application opens, when the screen is updated, when a >>>>>>> message >>>>>>> dialog appears, and more. And, when Voiceover is talking, the volume >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> background sounds and music is automatically lowered, "ducking" >>>>>>> under the >>>>>>> voice, so you can clearly hear what VoiceOver is telling you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It speaks your language >>>>>>> VoiceOver includes built-in voices that speak 36 languages: Arabic, >>>>>>> Chinese >>>>>>> (Cantonese), Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Czech, Danish, >>>>>>> Dutch, >>>>>>> English (Australia), English (Britain), English (Irish), English >>>>>>> (South >>>>>>> African), English (United States), Finnish, Flemish (Belgian Dutch), >>>>>>> French >>>>>>> (Canadian), French (France), German, Greek, Hindi, Hungarian, >>>>>>> Indonesian, >>>>>>> Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), >>>>>>> Portuguese (Portugal), Romanian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish (Mexico), >>>>>>> Spanish >>>>>>> (Spain), Swedish, Thai, Turkish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Getting started >>>>>>> VoiceOver is built right into iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS. >>>>>>> There's >>>>>>> nothing extra to purchase or install. All you need is the latest >>>>>>> version of >>>>>>> iTunes and a Mac or PC. You can activate your iPhone and enable >>>>>>> VoiceOver >>>>>>> without sighted assistance using Setup Assistant. Sighted users can >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> enable VoiceOver for you directly on iPhone using the Accessibility >>>>>>> menu in >>>>>>> the Settings application. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How it works >>>>>>> With VoiceOver enabled, you'll use a different but simple set of >>>>>>> gestures to >>>>>>> control iPhone. For example, instead of tapping to activate a >>>>>>> button, tap >>>>>>> the button to hear a description of it, double-tap to activate it, >>>>>>> and swipe >>>>>>> up or down to adjust a slider. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When an item on the screen is selected, a black rectangle called the >>>>>>> VoiceOver Cursor appears around it. The VoiceOver Cursor is >>>>>>> displayed for >>>>>>> the benefit of sighted users with whom you may be sharing your >>>>>>> phone. When >>>>>>> you prefer privacy, VoiceOver includes a screen curtain that turns >>>>>>> off the >>>>>>> display so no one can read it without your knowledge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition to touching and dragging around the screen, you can also >>>>>>> flick >>>>>>> left and right to move the VoiceOver Cursor precisely to the next or >>>>>>> previous item on the screen - no matter how big or small it is. By >>>>>>> flicking, >>>>>>> you have precise control of what you hear even when it might >>>>>>> otherwise be >>>>>>> difficult to place your finger on it. Watch the VoiceOver video >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Entering text >>>>>>> When you're typing text, such as an email message or a note, >>>>>>> VoiceOver >>>>>>> echoes each character on the keyboard as you touch it, and again to >>>>>>> confirm >>>>>>> when you enter it. You can also have VoiceOver speak each completed >>>>>>> word >>>>>>> instead of or in addition to individual characters as you type them. >>>>>>> A flick >>>>>>> up or down while typing moves the insertion point cursor left and >>>>>>> right >>>>>>> within the text so you can edit a word just as easily and precisely >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> typing a new word. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To help you type more quickly and accurately, iPhone features word >>>>>>> prediction and suggests the correct spelling when you type a word >>>>>>> incorrectly. With Speak Auto-text enabled, you'll hear a sound >>>>>>> effect and >>>>>>> the suggested word spoken automatically. You can just keep typing to >>>>>>> ignore >>>>>>> it, or press the space key to have iPhone type it for you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The rotor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> VoiceOver features an innovative virtual control called a "rotor." >>>>>>> Turning >>>>>>> the rotor - by rotating two fingers on the screen as if you were >>>>>>> turning an >>>>>>> actual dial - changes the way VoiceOver moves through a document >>>>>>> based on a >>>>>>> setting you choose. For example, a flick up or down might move >>>>>>> through text >>>>>>> word by word. But when you choose the "character" setting, each time >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> flick up or down VoiceOver will move through the text character by >>>>>>> character - perfect when you're proofreading or editing text. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can also use the rotor to navigate web pages. When you're on a >>>>>>> web page, >>>>>>> the rotor contains the names of common items, such as headers, >>>>>>> links, form >>>>>>> elements, images, and more. You select a setting, then flick up and >>>>>>> down to >>>>>>> move to the previous or next occurrence of that item on the page, >>>>>>> skipping >>>>>>> over items in between. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Applications >>>>>>> VoiceOver works with all of the built-in applications that come on >>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>> 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS, including Safari, Mail, App Store, >>>>>>> iTunes, >>>>>>> Music, Calendar, and Notes. And with the element labeler, you can >>>>>>> create >>>>>>> custom labels for buttons so it's even easier to place and receive >>>>>>> calls, >>>>>>> surf the web, text and email your friends, check your stocks and the >>>>>>> weather, and more. Apple is also working with iPhone software >>>>>>> developers so >>>>>>> they can make their applications VoiceOver compatible. Learn more >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wireless braille displays >>>>>>> You can use a refreshable braille display that uses Bluetooth >>>>>>> wireless >>>>>>> technology to read VoiceOver output in braille. In addition, braille >>>>>>> displays with input keys and other controls can be used to control >>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>> when VoiceOver is turned on. iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, and iPhone 3GS >>>>>>> work with >>>>>>> many of the most popular wireless braille displays. View a list of >>>>>>> supported >>>>>>> braille displays >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Siri >>>>>>> Siri on iPhone 4S lets you use your voice to send messages, place >>>>>>> phone >>>>>>> calls, schedule meetings, set reminders, and more. You can ask Siri >>>>>>> to do >>>>>>> things for you just by talking the way you talk. Siri understands >>>>>>> what you >>>>>>> say, knows what you mean, and even talks back. It's the intelligent >>>>>>> assistant that's there to help with the things you do every day. >>>>>>> iPhone 4S >>>>>>> also takes dictation. Instead of typing, tap the microphone button >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> keyboard, speak your words, numbers, or sentences out loud, and let >>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>> convert your words into text. It's never been easier to write >>>>>>> messages, take >>>>>>> notes, or search the web. Learn more about Siri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Zoom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While many iPhone applications let you zoom in and out specific >>>>>>> elements >>>>>>> such as images in Mail, or web page columns in Safari, Zoom lets you >>>>>>> magnify >>>>>>> the entire screen of any application you're using to help you see >>>>>>> what's on >>>>>>> the display. You can enable Zoom using iTunes when you're setting up >>>>>>> iPhone, >>>>>>> for yourself or someone else, or later, using the Accessibility menu >>>>>>> in the >>>>>>> Settings application on iPhone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Zoom works everywhere, including the Home, Lock, and Spotlight >>>>>>> screens - >>>>>>> even with applications you purchase from the App Store. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A simple double-tap with three fingers instantly zooms in and out >>>>>>> 200% and >>>>>>> you can double-tap and drag three fingers to dynamically adjust the >>>>>>> magnification between 100% and 500%. Even when zoomed, you can >>>>>>> continue >>>>>>> using all of the familiar flick, pinch, tap, and other iPhone >>>>>>> gestures to >>>>>>> run your favorite applications. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> White on Black >>>>>>> For those who need or prefer higher contrast, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> iPhone 3GS provide an option to change the display to white on >>>>>>> black. This >>>>>>> reverse video effect works in all applications as well as the Home, >>>>>>> Lock, >>>>>>> and Spotlight screens and can be used with Zoom and VoiceOver. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speak Selection >>>>>>> Want to select text from websites, email, messages, and more? Speak >>>>>>> Selection lets you highlight text in any application by double >>>>>>> tapping it. >>>>>>> Even if you don't have VoiceOver enabled, Speak Selection will read >>>>>>> you the >>>>>>> highlighted text and give you formatting options like cut, copy, and >>>>>>> paste. >>>>>>> Turn on Speak Selection in Settings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tactile Buttons >>>>>>> iPhone includes a few, easily discernible physical buttons used to >>>>>>> control >>>>>>> the phone: the Sleep/Wake button, located on the top edge; the >>>>>>> Ring/Silent >>>>>>> switch and volume-control buttons, located on the upper-left edge; >>>>>>> and the >>>>>>> Home button, centered below the display. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Large Text >>>>>>> You can increase the font size to see up to 56-point text in alerts, >>>>>>> Calendar, Contacts, Mail, Messages, and Notes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> iPhone Stereo Headset >>>>>>> iPhone comes with a stereo headset with a high-performance >>>>>>> microphone built >>>>>>> into the cable. Plug it into the standard 3.5-mm stereo headphone >>>>>>> jack, and >>>>>>> the headset lets you control music playback and answer and end calls >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> clicking the microphone capsule. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Several add-on products are also available to work with iPhone that >>>>>>> can help >>>>>>> those with hearing disabilities, including a hearing aid-compatible >>>>>>> induction ear loop from TecEar, wireless remote headset from Oticon, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> others. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hands-Free Speakerphone >>>>>>> Enjoy hands-free communication using the built-in speakerphone, >>>>>>> which you >>>>>>> can also use to listen to Visual Voicemail, music, podcasts, and >>>>>>> video. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Audible, Visible, and Vibrating Alerts >>>>>>> Turn the ringer on and iPhone delivers both audible and visual >>>>>>> alerts for >>>>>>> phone calls, text messages, new and sent mail, and calendar events. >>>>>>> Choose >>>>>>> to have an LED light flash for incoming calls and alerts. Set >>>>>>> incoming calls >>>>>>> to display a full-screen image of the caller. Or select an audio >>>>>>> option to >>>>>>> confirm keyboard actions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In silent mode, iPhone vibrates instead of playing a tone. And it's >>>>>>> easy to >>>>>>> know who's calling because you can select from different vibration >>>>>>> patterns >>>>>>> or create your own by tapping out custom patterns. To ensure that >>>>>>> you never >>>>>>> miss a notification, you can have iPhone play an audio alert, too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Downloadable, Assignable Ringtones >>>>>>> You can assign distinctive ringtones to individuals in your contacts >>>>>>> list, >>>>>>> using the ringtone as an audible caller ID. Visit the iTunes Store >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> create, purchase, and download additional ringtones of your favorite >>>>>>> songs >>>>>>> (sold separately). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Accessible iPhone User Guide >>>>>>> The iPhone User Guide has been designed with accessibility in mind. >>>>>>> Read the >>>>>>> iPhone User Guide in HTML format using a web browser with your >>>>>>> favorite >>>>>>> screen reader on a Mac, PC, and iPhone. Or listen to the iPhone User >>>>>>> Guide >>>>>>> in ePub format using VoiceOver in the iBooks app on iPhone (iBooks >>>>>>> and the >>>>>>> user guide can be downloaded at no charge from the App Store and >>>>>>> iBookstore, >>>>>>> respectively). You can read the iPhone User Guide in tagged PDF >>>>>>> format using >>>>>>> the Preview application in OS X and Adobe Acrobat for Mac and >>>>>>> Windows. If >>>>>>> you can read English braille there's also an electronic braille >>>>>>> version in >>>>>>> .brf format. 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