Hi Paul I couldn?t agree with you more. Passing comments about other people or organizations is simply wrong and I hope you won?t let it continue. Paul Mahoney -----Original Message----- From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Traynor Sent: 05 August 2008 08:49 To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vip_students] Moderator: List business! Hi All, It was nice to see the list so busy over the weekend. The bank holiday didn?t distract you from the work at hand. I would like to just bring up a few issues here for clarification. We had Raheme advertise a phone which a contact of his had advised him was for sale at what seemed like a good price and as I know Raheme I would certainly trust his judgment in putting this deal forward to the list. It is okay to forward this kind of notice to the list provided that the information is correct and not mis-leading. I also looked over Noreen?s request for help with the RTE site. Once again the list deals with issues of a learning nature and what she asked for was help with trying to work over the site. However it was evident that there was a noticeable opportunity taken for to knock an organization for not making the site better. Noreen?s request was a genuine one and I know not meant in any other way but simply to enlist help but it was the quality of the replies that came into question. On the issue of Braille, Tony, while this forum is for anything to do with accessibility in a learning context including braille, it is not here for a chance to have a go at anyone or any business or organization. please take this to another list. Unless it is a tutorial or some other form of learning material then I won?t have this list abused as a crusading ground. You talk about starting a new list concerning Braille, please go ahead and do it and I wish you every success with it. Also list could I say that Any kind of remarks toward people on the list either they be employees of an organization or neutral will not be acceptable either. I have said it before and will say it again for anyone who might feel uncomfortable with my running of the list, I have told you that as far as this list is concerned I am working on it independently and not as an employee of the NCBI. I try to keep it this way if possible as it is more relaxed and informal. Paul. _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4783 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> for free now! ******************************************************************** NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. NCBI endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses or other contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any such which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of NCBI ******************************************************************** _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 719 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> for free now!