Hello, You?ll be happy to know that visually-impaired children are taught Braille at school (well, definitely in Kildare, South Dublin and Wicklow). This is due to the wonderful work of dedicated visiting teachers. Also, our Early Learning Centre (preschool for the visually-impaired children) in Clondalkin has been running a Braille workshop for teaching the parents of the children who attend. This was run by one of the visiting teachers. Braille is still a very important form of access for visually-impaired people of all ages. It should be encouraged to be used alongside Assistive Technology. There will never be a replacement for sitting down and reading a book, no matter how human sounding the voice software gets! Sharon Lyons Technology Trainer (Kildare, South Dublin and Wicklow) NCBI Clondalkin _____ From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edel Carey Sent: 04 August 2008 23:57 To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vip_students] Re: Equality & Braille Hi Tony That was a great email. I agree that one needs to read to be able to spell and punctuate. I do not use Braille but did learn it as a child. I think I could probably pick it up in the morning if I had to. Its a great backup for anyone threatened with sight loss. I'm sure its use has been replaced by assistive technology as its easier to train Resource Teachers, SNA's etc in the use of AT. I personally find that when listening to audio which I do a lot, I am inclined to drift and even 'sleep' sometimes. (at least that's my excuse for poor retention) heehaw Cheers Edel.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony <mailto:tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> Sweeney To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Equality & Braille Hi Eamonn, I have trawled for that mail this bank holiday Sunday evening and I have come up with it! By the way the person who was put about by the tribunal was Ms áine wellard but Tony's mail is very good and thought provoking indeed! You know that I also did some brailling for The Association in the dim and distant past, but not in Arbour Hill I hasten to add! See below! Hi, I remember struggling to get books and handouts in Braille back in my secondary school days (it's about all I remember). Even when books were in Braille, often there was only one copy available, to be shared between a couple of students. In a lot of cases, the books would be in bad condition too, and no effort would be made to replace them. "Johnny, would you read that out to Tony?" "Tony, get someone at home to read that out to you." "Ok Tony, just 'imagine' this experiment... try and, uhh, 'picture' it." "Tony, I'll send this handout across to be Brailled out for you... You can expect it in, oh, five weeks... but don't be surprised if it doesn't show up at all." I bet a lot of you are familiar with teachers saying those kinds of things! When I was taking my leaving cert, two of the Braille papers (English and History) didn't show up. I'll never forget the resource teacher at the time telling me to "Just wait, I'll go and ring someone to see what is happening... you'll get extra time at the end". That was a lot of help, the extra time was my break before the next exam! Now that I think of it... Do you guys remember having to go and read out the answers to your maths exams? In the last few years at school, any of the Summer or Christmas tests we took were answered in Braille. A few days after the exam was over, I was called in to an office, handed my answer sheets, and told to "read out those answers"! I'd love to think we've moved on from those bad old days (all of twelve years ago). Braille is very very important to me. Personally, I don't consider listening to something to be 'reading'. It's an alternative to reading. I desperately hope kids these days are being taught Braille. Issuing a student with a laptop loaded up with Jaws is not the answer... I don't believe people can really learn things by listening to someone or something reading it out. Anything I really need to assimilate has to be given to me in Braille; bet I'm not the only one. I don't buy the argument that with technology these days, people don't need to learn Braille. How could someone learn to spell? What about learning the proper use of punctuation? Jaws doesn't teach you this stuff. On the positive side, I was delighted to hear recently that Blind students at school are being encouraged to use devices like the Braille Note etc. Because of various schemes out there, it is becoming easier to acquire such technology, and this is a good start! Don't get me wrong, Jaws, DAISY, Talking Watches... all those things are brilliant and make life great fun... but in my opinion Braille is, and always will be the way in which Blind people successfully and properly read written material. I have to be honest, most of my education happened outside of school, but anything I did half arsedly think about studying while I was there was made tough by the lack of Braille material. At that time, I was far more concerned with learning how to appear sober while drunk, how to play the guitar, where the cheapest alcohol could be successfully purchased by a minor, how to be a stupid clueless sixteen year old and chat up a girl without appearing to be a stupid clueless sixteen year old, all that! I didn't excel in any of those areas, I'm proud to say. Thankfully I did my teenage years in the raggy old 90s where it was cool to be uncool, and very uncool to use the word cool. Cheers! Tony ******************************************************************** NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. 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