[vicsireland] Re: you're out if you're over 65
- From: "Ed Harper" <goat@xxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:43:42 +0100
Hi all,
It sounds to me as if this is the typical idea that the "old" are different
like the "blind and disabled" "Women" "foreigners" etc and anyone else who
used to be defined as in some sense different and therefore assumed to be
inferior or less worth bothering about. I presume it assumed that those
over 65 are not likely to be contributing to society and that only those who
contribute are entitled to have anything out of the pot as it were. This
is obvious nonsense. If we were talking about a society which was not
generating large amounts of wealth which is channeled in to a relatively few
pockets, many of which are not even on the clothing of residents of the
country,
[Ed Harper] then perhaps some kind of rationing which cut out people with
what was perceived as less to give back might be vaguely excusable, but in a
society whose political class brags about the success of the "economy"
whilst taking personal advantages large and small from their positions and
presiding over an inadequate education and health system, this is an insult
which we as a group should seek to redress. What happened to a respect for
experience and wisdom? We will all fall into this blackhole if we live
long enough. Why should we waste the talents of our older people?
Ed -----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gerry Ellis
Sent: 14 May 2007 20:22
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: you're out if you're over 65
Hi, Mike,
I believe that your problem lies in the age specified in equality
legislation. I think, but I'm not sure, that a child is determined to be up
to the age of 18 and adults from 18 to 65. Once you hit 65 you are no longer
covered by disability equality legislation and have to look elsewhere for
support.
Can someone confirm or deny this?
Take care,
Gerry Ellis
t/a Feel The BenefIT
If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Meaney
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:50 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: you're out if you're over 65
Thank you Elaine,
I'll apply, and hope for the best, But I better not hold my breath.
I'll then as you suggest, approach the appeals officer if I can find
Him\her and make an appointment. Wish me luck.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: elaine o'neill
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:03 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: you're out if you're over 65
Hi mike,
I myself am waiting about 10 years for an up date of Jaws and a
reader, apparently, luckily for me its going to happen soon. Well I have
been refused much from our Health Board, but I always appeal in writing - I
usually get a negative answer to the appeal also! My approach is to then
make an appointment with the Appeals Officer - it some times helps. Find no
matter how many rules some of these things are discretionary and the
personal approach often works better. I am sure the Health Board would not
like to be accused of ageism! Keep trying Mike and good luck. No doubt you
will keep us posted.
Elaine
Elaine.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Meaney
To: vics ireland
Cc: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] you're out if you're over 65
Hello listers,
I bought a new Computer and decided to enquire about getting help
from the pool of aids, first to find out that someone had registered my
version of Jaws.
I asked then was it true that if you were over 65 you were out, and
was told to contact my local office, I did that to discover it was true. But
it was the fault of the health board. I rang and was told first they never
heard of JAWS or any software for the blind, and if I had purchased it I
wouldn't get a refund. And if they could give me one I'd have to have a
medical Card, but I wouldn't get that till I was 70.
I am very annoyed over this because I know there are many members
and non members out there who are working with versions of Jaws that are
ancient and many of them would not be able to afford 1171.65 Euro for the
latest version.
I would like if Vics could bring this up at their next AGM and find
out where the problem lies.
I have been on this list for years and hear members who are working
discussing their new version of JAWS, Can you imagine how the other people
with out of date versions feel.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
If I wanted a zimmer frame or a commode I'd also have to have a
medical card.
I must try to stay healthy and mobile.
Mike.
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