To make it a bit clearer: The Four-Finger Double-Tap to get into VoiceOver Help
is an exception, in that it IS NOT an on/off toggle. (Many of the other on/off
gesteures ARE toggles, where if you repeat, it undoes or gets out of what you
did/where you were.)
From: Gerard Shanahan
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:50 PM
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: ifone question
Hi Flor, Susan and Roslyn,
Flor, it is a brilliant way to learn and you are correct, one does have to read
it leasurely, giving oneself time to take in the info. Also it isn’t a bad idea
to mimmick the actions described on a flat surface next to your computer as you
read in the event you don’t have a iphone in your posession. It was the one
and only real source of self tuition for the iphone. Now, if you are of the
frame of mind that you get into the idea of the voiceover but there is a few
described actions that you don’t quite get at first, keep trying, leaving it
and coming back to it again. I got my phone December, 2 years ago and I didn’t
quite get the index combo box in the contacts but after the eureka moment I
find it really great. Another great assistive help point is if you place the
iphone in the landscape position and then perform a four finger double tap and
voiceover will announce help, this lets you perform all gestures without
actually doing anything while voiceover will tell you what each gesture results
in – 3 finger swipe from right to left page forward. You can get out of this
window by repeating the gesture I mentioned earlier as it is an activate or
deactivate gesture. Roslyn, in the event you don’t have an opportunity to use
an iphone, you might have a look at an ipad or an ipod, voiceover works the
same on all devices. If you have a friend who has a I device or apple ipad
iphone or ipod, ask them to give you a look at it and if you try a 3 finger
double tap on the screen it should switch on voice over and do the same again
to turn it off. If this doesn’t work ask them if they could go into settings
and switch on voiceover under accessibility. Susan, I don’t know about the
local library system in the north, alas Roslyn, you could contact the local
library and inquire if they have a volunteer who gives tutorials on iphones or
other such devices. Don’t make a big thing of explaining to them that you are
visually impaired, best to leave it out and in the event that a local volunteer
does show people all about smart devices, find out when he is there and see if
you can make an appointment to meet him so that maybe he might show you
something on his I device or smart phone, In the event let me know how you get
on with this option. You could of course contact the local resource worker and
ask the technology officer to visit or talk to them inquiring about the
opportunity of looking at an iphone. Susan, if you want to try out something,
get Joe to put the email of a friend into contacts if the phone has access to
the wifi in the house or use joe’s phone. Then if siri is active on the phone,
“Hey serie, make a facetime video call to joe bourke” serie in her cool
feministic tones wil answer “making a facetime audio call to joe bourke” – oh!
How those husky breathie tones excite me….
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] ;
On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: 19 July 2017 12:33
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: ifone question
Hi Susan,
Another good Web site, even easier than AppleVis in ways, is
www.voiceover-easy.net . (Note the hyphen in voiceover-easy.)
Other handy gestures?
Two-Finmger Scrub: That is, two-finger flick right then left, is the Back or
ESC button.
(Remember to turn the Screen Curtain OFF when/if you needd a sighted pair of
eyes to look at the screen! Three-Finger Triple-Tap.)
Be patient with yourself while learning the iPhone. (If you’d had enough for
one day or afternoon, come back to it later when you’re fresher.) It all takes
time to absorb anyway. (Perhaps a few weeks to get familiar with it, depending
on how much time you put into it.) It’s ultimately rewarding!
From: Susan Bourke
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:52 AM
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: ifone question
Yes I gathered that, I mentioned it to give Rosalyn an idea of maybe borrowing
one from a family member or friend before she forks out that big money for one.
That website is great been all this time looking at it, so many thanks
susan
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Nason
Sent: 19 July 2017 11:45
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: ifone question
Hi Susan,
No worries. Oh yeah the bit about buying a phone was aimed at Roslyn really.
AppleVis was your bit :)
Enjoy,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Jul 2017, at 09:27, Susan Bourke <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Dave,
O thank you I’m so grateful for that, no I won’t be buying one till I see if
I can use it or not I’ll just keep using joe’s for the time being.
susan
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Nason
Sent: 19 July 2017 09:21
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: ifone question
Hi Roslyn and Susan,
Roslyn: Honestly iPhones rarely come cheap, but there are generally plenty of
people selling them second hand on the likes of Adverts.ie and DoneDeal.ie
There are shops around the place called Entertainment Exchange, and their
website www.cex.ie but in my experience they are very expensive.
At this stage I wouldn’t recommend buying anything older than an iPhone 6,
maybe at a push an iPhone 5S or 5C, which are 4 years old now..
Susan: A good place to start is www.applevis.com
They have some good beginners guides. There is also a forum where you can ask
questions.
HTH,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Jul 2017, at 08:30, Susan Bourke <SusanCurry@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Roslyn
I’m also just finding out about these I phones, in fact I go for my first
and only lesson today that the royal national institute for the blind is
supplying, normally it is for 6 weeks but they have run out of funding. I
barely know how to turn one on so I was wondering if anyone on the list would
have any tips and hints?
susanBest wishes Roslyn
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of roslynallman@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 18 July 2017 21:46
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] ifone question
Hi All,
Sorry if asking a question that has been mentioned before. I was wondering
where to get a used/second hand ifone? Just to get used to using the phone as
I am not a user currently.
Thanks in advance.
Roslyn
