[vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with Jaws 13
- From: "Eamonn X. O'Connor" <EXOConnor@xxxxxxx>
- To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:17:27 +0000
Have you ever heard him breathe, Donal?
I haven't, but I've heard claims that he does!
Eamonn
[vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with Jaws 13
Dónal Fitzpatrick
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Please respond to vicsireland
you all need Alex on the mac! Just sayin...
On 24 Feb 2012, at 16:08, Esmond Walshe wrote:
> yes, there appears to be a trend towards using the natural sounding
> speech synthasizers, which is rather worrying. As I find the natural
> sounding ones much less responsive, and also the intonation isn't
> always as good. Noted that the intonation issues in the newer
> versions of these synthasizers appears to have been greatly improved.
> But still listening to them at high speed can be a bit shaky.
>
> Esmond
>
> On 2/24/12, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitzpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> it's an old style synth. The modern preference for acapella or those
other
>> natural sounding synths is taking over.
>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 15:45, Tim Culhane wrote:
>>
>>> Nop, Apparently Nuance has discontinued development ... so you'd
wonder
>>> how much longer Jaws and Window Eyes will support it?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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Fitzpatrick
>>> Sent: 24 February 2012 15:39
>>> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with Jaws
13
>>>
>>> seems like it Tim, apologies I was under the impression that there was
an
>>> Eloquence driver.
>>>
>>> Of course purchasing eloquence directly might be a possibility? If it
is
>>> SAPI compliant then you might be able to use it that way. However I
>>> suspect
>>> that it will not be as responsive.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 15:21, Tim Culhane wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't look like it. According to the NVDA website attempts to
>>>> develop a driver foundered due to the cost of purchasing licenses
from
>>> Nuance.
>>>>
>>>> I've installed NVDA, and to be honest the eSpeak synth is truly
>>>> awful.
>>>> The most charitable I can be is to say it sounds like something
>>>> straight out of Doctor Who.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal
>>>> Fitzpatrick
>>>> Sent: 24 February 2012 12:10
>>>> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with
>>>> Jaws 13
>>>>
>>>> yeah I think there is an eloquence driver knocking about somewhere.
>>>> Amazing how used one gets to the so-called "inferior" voice isn't it.
>>>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 12:07, Tim Culhane wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Probably worth looking at. Does it have a decent synthesiser? I'm
so
>>>>> used to eloquence I can't live with some of the Real voices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal
>>>>> Fitzpatrick
>>>>> Sent: 24 February 2012 12:04
>>>>> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with
>>>>> Jaws 13
>>>>>
>>>>> no switching isn't open to everyone. Tim I'm hearing very good
>>>>> things about NVDA and word recently. I've not used it, and I'm sure
>>>>> you don't want to spend time (or probably don't have time) to learn a
>>>>> new screenreader, but I am hearing very very good things indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Donal
>>>>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 12:02, Tim Culhane wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Donal will try draft view.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, switching away from Windows isn't an option in my
>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal
>>>>>> Fitzpatrick
>>>>>> Sent: 24 February 2012 11:59
>>>>>> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: configuring Word 2010 to work best with
>>>>>> Jaws 13
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try view draft tim. Turd 2010 and jaws 12 were among the main
>>>>>> reasons I stopped using windows. Incidentally, I'm reliably
>>>>>> informed by sighted friends and colleagues that the ribbon bar is as
>>>>>> awful for them as
>>>>> for us.
>>>>>> On 24 Feb 2012, at 11:56, Flor Lynch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Normal view. (If it exists.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Culhane"
>>>>>>> <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:29 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [vicsireland] configuring Word 2010 to work best with Jaws
>>>>>>> 13
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if people have any information on what changes can
>>>>>>>> be made to Word 2010 so that reading documents with Jaws 13 is
>>>>>>>> as comfortable as possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've already changed the document view from print layout to
>>>>>>>> outline layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, When arrowing down in a document I keep having problems
>>>>>>>> with Jaws saying blank or nothing at all when moving from one line
>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> next.
>>>>>>>> Arrowing back up and down again usually fixes this, but it is
>>>>>>>> very annoying to have to constantly do this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any tips for best results with word 2010 much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note I'm running Jaws and Word on Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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