I agree with Cearbhall here, please remember to change subject lines before sending in messages to the vics list. Thank you, Paul. List Moderator. _____ I've stopped 25 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at www.cloudmark.com <http://www.cloudmark.com/sigs?rc=> <http://www.cloudmark.com/sigs?rc=> Cloudmark Desktop - Join the fight against spam! _____ From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:08 AM To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Vics training day What has this to do with the VICS training day? All the best, Cearbhall "Good design enables - Bad design disables" _____ From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Ann Brosnan Sent: 17 October 2006 20:52 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Vics training day Hi Karen Thanks very much for your recommendation to use Spam Fighter. I have been getting a lot of spam lately and, I figured that this is worth a try before I go to the hassle of changing my e-mail address again. For jaws users thinking of installing this program, I should warn you that, you will have to route jaws to Pc a lot and use the left mouse button to click on certain buttons. You will also need to get help filling in a form to register. When in outlook express, I can only block stuff by routing the jaws to PC cursor again. Hope this helps someone Joan Ann. ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen <mailto:karen.ashe@xxxxxxxxx> Ashe To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Vics training day Hi Sean What email client are you using to receive your emails? When I used webmail alone, I had to change my address several times, as then the spam fighters were rather poor. Now I use Outlook Express on my desktop PC and Thunderbird on the laptop. If you use Outlook or Outlook Express, you can download a plug-in called SpamFighter at www.spamfighter.com. It wasn't as straightforward to download in my case as I'd like, but does seem to effectively recognise spam. There's a 'blacklist' for specific email addresses (as well as a 'whitelist' to make 100% sure mail from your friends/newsletters/whatever gets through) and a 'blocking' feature, which actually blocks the content of the email (not only to you but to everyone who uses the program) which is more effective since of course spammers use a multitude of different addresses. The instructions about how to use all the program's features are offered to you at installation, and are available at any time on the website. Apparently you should keep an eye on the Spam folder the program creates for about a month after you install it, as an odd piece of legitimate marketing email for which you have signed up may end up there; you can then tell SpamFighter to allow this. Also, if a piece of spam gets through to your inbox, you can tell it to filter this to spam. In other words, it learns what's legitimate and what's not. The above is a bit like marketing for that product! Sorry, I do tend to go on about things, but just want to give a full picture. So far I've found SpamFighter quite an effective too, and I like the fact that as soon as any user blocks an email, no one who uses it will get that same email. Anyway the full version of the program is available for a 30 day trial. If you want to keep SpamFighter after that you can get the free version (or you can pay for the full version, but I don't think there's enough extra features to justify the cost). As far as Thunderbird goes, it has a built-in anti-spam tool, which I have also found rather quite effective. It too 'learns' what is spam and what is not; all you have to do is hit a button on the toolbar. By default, what Thunderbird considers spam is marked as spam, but annoyingly is not filtered to the 'Junk E-mail' folder. This is easily rectified by going to the Tools menu and selecting 'Junk Email Controls...' from which you can select the settings appropriate to you. You can even start a spam log if you want to keep track of how much you're getting. Of course, check the spam folder until you're confident that no legitimate email is getting through - if welcome email is classified as 'Junk', the 'Junk' button on the toolbar becomes 'Not Junk' and you simply click that to tell Thunderbird, and it will be safe from now on. Thunderbird is Mozilla's version of Outlook Express, and in many ways bears a striking resemblence to that program. I find OE slightly easier to use to be honest, but I like supporting shareware products and not market monopolies when I can ;-) You can get Thunderbird from www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. Whilst on that subject, Mozilla's web browser, Firefox, is - for those who don't already use it - much better that Internet Explorer, and I really recommend that anyone who doesn't have it gets it! Both programs are compatible with Jaws 7.0 and above, though I understand that there are a few teething problems (see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Assistive_technology_compatibility). There are other anti-spam tools of course, not that I know anything about their usage though. Have a look at http://email.about.com/cs/winspamreviews/tp/free_spam.htm for reviews of ten free programs. The first one, POPFile, sounds quite good as it filters the spam at the POP stage before it gets to your email client (if I'm reading that correctly), though the negative side is that it's a uses a wee bit too much CPU power. OK, I have gone on for far too long as I always tend to, but hopefully there's something vaguely helpful somewhere in the above mire of words. Good luck with cutting down on the spam however you proceed. Best K On 12/10/06, Sean Loftus <seanlofty@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Tony: I enjoyed those, too, and look forward to an early repeat performance. In the meantime, can anyone on the list recommend a simple, effective method of dealing with the large amount of spam and junk E-mail which I have been receiving recently? I know of one individual who felt it necessary to change his E-mail address because of this. Does the treatment really have to be so drastic? Sean. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Murray <tony.g.murray@xxxxxx> To: < <mailto:vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Vics training day > Hi Sean, > > I'm so glad you found the day useful, and thanks for your support. > > You are right. It is a great tribute to VICS, the fact that some of our > members came along and gave up their free time to make this possible. > > Everything VICS does is based on voluntary work on the part of those > involved. It just proves to me that others are as passionate about this > organisation as I am. For that reason, I love to see an event like last > Saturday's training day pay off. > > Seeing people gaining knowledge, having a good time, and becoming more and > more confident in the use of their technology is payment enough in my > opinion. I get a great sense of personal satisfaction, knowing that the > things I do as Chair of VICS, works to empower my fellow Blind and Visually > Impaired people in the field of technology. I have an excellent Committee > around me, and their enthusiasm and drive allows us to work well for our > members. > > So, roll on November 18th in Galway! > > It was great catching up with you afterwards Sean for a few cold ones too, > we must do it again sometime soon. > > Take care, > > Tony > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sean Loftus" < seanlofty@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:seanlofty@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <Vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:54 PM > Subject: [vicsireland] Vics training day > > > Dear all, > Thanks to everyone involved in planning and carrying out last Saturday's > Vics training day. I am in full agreement with my fellow participants that > the day was an enormous success. It is a great tribute to Vics that members > of the committee willingly gave up a Saturday to provide this instruction > for us. The material handed out at the conclusion of the day's activities on > c D, braille and other desired formats will certainly keep me occupied for > some time to come. > I would urge any Vics members with a wish to improve their computer skills > to watch out for future announcements concerning training days and sign up. > Well done Vics committee. > Sean Loftus. > > > > > **************************************************************************** **** > This document is strictly confidential and is intended for use by > the addressee unless otherwise indicated. > > This email has been scanned by an external Email Security System. > > Allied Irish Banks > **************************************************************************** **** > > >