[vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.

  • From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:17:58 -0000

Hi Damien,
 
Don't have a laptop to hand,  so I'm  taking this from memory.
 
The left mouse button  is alt + 8  while the right mouse button is alt + 9.
 
to route pc cursor  to jaws cursor  use alt + apostrophe.
 
alt + ;  returns you to pc cursor.
 
 
The jaws key  is the insert key.  If your lap top doesn't have an insert key
I think you can use  the caps lock key as well.
 
Cheers,
 
Tim
 

-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damien O'Connor
Sent: 31 January 2008 13:00
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.


Hi Tim.
 
The keystrokes you gave me, Do they apply to laptops as well as desktops. I
should have mentioned, I'm working with a laptop. Also, could you remind me
which key the jaws key is? is it the insert key?
 
Damien.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tim Culhane <mailto:tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.

Hi Damien,
 
Ok,  I've downloaded one of the flyers  and  I reckon the problem  is that
embedded graphics are being used,  and no alt text  is used with the
graphics,  so jaws sees nothing.
 
Like the web,  if you  don't put alt text on graphics in word documents,
jaws  won't  see them at all.
 
To see if your problem  is related to  embedded  graphics,   open   the
template  and  then hit  control + jawskey + shift + g.
 
This should bring up a list  of the embedded graphics  on the page.
 
If it doesn't,  then maybe your problem  is not  related to this.
 
I've found  a bit of a hack   for  converting  the graphics  to text ....
but I don't know  if this  messes up the template,  so it mightn't  be any
use for you.
 
Again,  open  the  template.
 
Using the  jaws cursor  you should be able to find   the text in  the
graphic on the page.
 
Hit the left mouse  button,  (the slash key  on  the number pad)  to
highlight the text.
 
Then click the right mouse button (* key  on number pad),  and a context
menu  should appear.
 
select translate.
 
Then  select  entire document  and choose text.
 
Word  will then try and open  a website to translate the document into
another language.  You don't  really  want this,  but a side effect seems to
be that the graphics  in your template   is now  text which jaws can read.
 
There is probably an easier way of doing this,  but  I'm  no expert in word!
 
I know this sounds conviluted,  and as I say if the template layout  is
messed up  it won't even solve your  problem,  but at least you will have
the text.
 
Regards,
 
Tim
 

-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damien O'Connor
Sent: 31 January 2008 11:07
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.


Hi Tim.
 
Thanks for this. No They're not forms. They are content controles. The
templates I'm talking about are ones I've downloaded from the microsoft
website. They are for flyers. the idea is that they are already designed and
all you do is to put in your information. The formatting and overall style
of the template is retained.
 
Damien.  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tim Culhane <mailto:tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.

Hi Damien,
 
Does  the word template contain  a form?
 
If so,  it really  depends on how  the form was created.  There are
guidelines for   creating  accessible   word forms.
 
I would suggest  looking  at   the   microsoft word  section  in the  jaws
online help.  Specifically look at  the  helpful hints for word section,
where you will find info  on navigating  word forms.
 
Tim
 

-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damien O'Connor
Sent: 31 January 2008 10:24
To: vics Ireland
Subject: [vicsireland] JAWS 8 and Templates.


Hello everyone.
 
I wonder if anyone can help. I've sent this query to the jaws light user
group and had no response so thought I'd try vics members. Please accept my
apologies if this isn't the kind of thing vics Ireland is for but, I'm
getting desperate.
 
This isn't really a specific question, so, I apologise in advance if I'm
sounding vague. 
 
I'm currently working through a desktop publishing module on my computer
course and am trying to use JAWS 8 with templates downloaded from the
Microsoft
website into ms word 2007. Once downloaded in order to enter information I
have to click into place views on each template. and then enter specific
information.
However, Jaws doesn't read the downloaded template and I can't seem to
access the areas of the template that require information. Has anyone had
any experience
of using jaws and templates downloaded from the Microsoft website and if so,
can anyone advise me on the best way forward. 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
Damien O'Connor.
 
 



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