Hiya mate,
Actually, there’s a lot more people than me doing it, and most do it better
than I do! :-)
Cheers,
On 21 Apr 2015, at 23:35, DandGReay <dandgreay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, Chris,
That's really interesting. Like many JAWS users, I've always felt doomed to
be forever Windows-bound and Sonar looked like the only available option when
everyone else I knew was using Logic and ProTools. I've been impressed with
Voiceover on the Iphone and was wondering if anyone was doing what you've
been doing. Glad to hear it's possible.
Cheers,
David
-----Original Message-----
From: vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chris Norman
Sent: 17 April 2015 17:38
To: vibe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vibe] Re: BCAB + Articles
Hi David,
Yes, that’s with a mac using VoiceOver.
I use a Mac less and less these days, since I spend most of my time
programming, and I don’t find VoiceOver responsive enough for my liking, and
it’s far too "nice" for me these days. But one area where it does excel is in
music production.
Logic, for the 139 quid you pay is a stunner. All the loops and instruments
you can eat, and obviously you can add extras in too if you install them.
Apple are slowly responding to our wishes, most recently we’ve gained access
to effects and stuff.
With Pro Tools, there’s even more innovation, with Avid continually improving
accessibility, and having it as one of their core objectives with new
versions.
I tend to use Pro Tools for most stuff, just because Logic still has a way to
go. You can’t access sends and stuff, and metres aren’t there, although
that’s not really a show stopper.
Anyways, they both have email lists, Pro Tools access and Logic access. I’ll
send along details if people can’t find them on google (although they should,
since both lists are google groups).
HTH,
On 15 Apr 2015, at 20:49, DandGReay <dandgreay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, all,
As Clive has kindly namechecked me, I thought I'd say hello. I'm David
Reay (It's pronounced Ray, by the way) and I'm a guitarist. I mainly
play jazz these days, though I've worked in folk and rock as well.
My wife, Gay, is a singer, and we've been broadcast on Radio 2's folk
show as jazz/folk duo, Galliard. I've played the Soho Pizza Express
Jazz Club amongst other places with Canadian guitarist, Jamie Moore
and do a reasonable number of pub, club and festival dates in the year
with jazz trio "Threedom", in the band "The Strangers", as mentioned
by Clive, and have a few other projects going on. The latest band,
Gypskazz, mixes gypsy jazz and ska with a few other styles thrown in.
Some links at the end, if you're interested.
As regards tech, leaving guitars, amps and FX for another time and the
interested few, I record on a Fostex VF160 16 track hard disc
recorder. When you can't read the screen, it's a matter of writing out
the menus and counting clicks, except where there's audio feedback, which
there often is.
As Clive mentioned, I'm a big fan of GoldWave for non multi-track
purposes, accessed using the JAWS screen reader on, of course, a
Windows PC. For recordings for sale I still tend to use professional
studios, as I've never spent out for a really top quality set of
microphones and proper acoustic treatment isn't ideal for our living
room! Chris, I'm interested you're using ProTools and Logic. Would that be
on a Mac using Voiceover?
Things I'm interested in doing in the near future are:
1. Switching from my current website to one I can edit myself. Anyone
know of an accessible hosting service?
2. Getting recordings on downloading and streaming sites. I've been
thinking of using CD Baby for this, and I notice they also have a
hosting service, Host Baby.
Nice to meet you all. Hope to chat more in future.
More links than you could possibly want below:
Promo video Gypskazz fb page:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1453621101595023&set=vb.138591188
836594
5&type=2&theater
Gypskazz Facebook Page
https://www.facebook.com/gypskazz
Threedom Jazz Trio, Dave Reay and Jamie Moore, ReverbNation Page
http://www.reverbnation.com/davereay
Galliard, Strangers et al, Grasshopper Promotions
http://www.grasshopperpromotions.co.uk/
FaceBook Musician Page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dave-Reay/104232833016511
FaceBook Profile
https://www.facebook.com/david.reay.754?ref=tn_tnmn
SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/dave-reay
Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/davereayguitar
-----Original Message-----
From: vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 15 April 2015 16:29
To: vibe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vibe] BCAB + Articles
HiJames,
BCAB.
One of the main benefits is the 'TechABreak' weekend we hold in October.
Peter did a great session on sound recording last year, and David Reay
gave us one on Goldwave a couple of years before. Following that, he
wrote a word document taking people through what's available in
Goldwave and how to do it all with keystrokes. I believe this is still
available to BCAB members in the 'members only' area of the website.
It must be said that not all of the seminars at the Techabreak weekend
would be relevant to list members, but have a browse on www.bcab.org.uk to
see more about what we do.
Articles:
I have mixed feelings on whether we should only hold articles which
cover blindness related angles, or whether we should also have more
generic articles on how to write, perform or record music. Perhaps two
separate clusters of articles could be the way to go.
Interestingly, I've been asked to give a talk next year to the
European Association of Piano teacers, because there's a lot out there
about how to teach classicl piano, and the history of classical piano
music, but they're increasingly being asked about rock and pop piano
and keyboard playing, and many of them don't know where to start.
I do think we need to present ourselves as being good at what we do
first, and visually-impaired second if we are to stand any chance of
competing on equal terms. The band I belong to also has a blind
guitarist (actually the guy who wrote the goldwave walk-through for
BCAB). Recently our leader was interviewed on a local radio station. The
interviewer said something like:
"I believe it's a visually-impaired band, isn't it." To his credit he
retorted with something like: "They're in the band because I can throw
any new song at them in any key and they pick it up more quickly than
anyone else I know, and they deliver the goods", a polite way of
saying we're in the band on merit, telling the interviewer he was barking up
the wrong tree.
If anyone wants to hear what our band sound like, you can search on
Youtube for "Ron Trueman Border Strangers", and you'll find quite a
few live clips, or visit www.grashopperpromotions.co.uk to hear a few
samples of studio recordings.
Best,
Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Risdon, James
Sent: 15 April 2015 15:46
To: vibe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vibe] Re: In Reply To: Introduction
Hi Clive,
I use Goldwave and agree it is quite easy. I also like the help files
which are, on the whole, easy to follow. I didn't know about the extra
resources for BCAB members, could you elaborate about what else is available
please?
To my great shame, I am not a member, but admire their work.
Cheers, James
-----Original Message-----
From: vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 15 April 2015 15:18
To: vibe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vibe] Re: In Reply To: Introduction
Goldwave's pretty good at what it does, and it's pretty near fully
accessible. All of its help fules are accessible, and if you're a
British Computer Association of the Blind member, you have access to a
good Word document giving walk-through of its features.
Best,
Clive
From: vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vibe-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Norman
Sent: 15 April 2015 15:08
To: vibe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vibe] Re: In Reply To: Introduction
Hi Sarah,
I'm afraid you might be stuck with recording with guide as it's quite
a limited piece of software. Where I volunteer we teach people to use
guide, and it's got nothing so far as I am aware to record with.
That said, if computers aren't your thing, there are a lot of great
hardware units out there, from tape machines to minidisk recorders to
fully-fledged digital recording systems. I've just sent a friend of
mine a message, and I'll let you know when I get the answer, but
there's a little device made by Olympus (not sure of spelling). It's a
multitrack recorder, and it's pretty well accessible so far as I can
tell... I don't think it has speech output or anything like that, but
I know my friend certainly got a lot of really good stuff done with it.
It's got reverb and possibly other fx with it too, so you could do
some good stuff with it.
Sadly, the recording programs for computers aren't easy to use - by
their very nature they're complicated beasts. The one saving grace
though, is that you can pick your speed.
When I used to record with Garage Band, I used to use the internal
microphone on my Mac, and the On screen Keyboard (which I still love using).
So I was completely removed from the abstracts of audio devices ETC.
Nowa days I'm more hands-on, with a big audio interface, and I pick
inputs, busses etc, but the point I'm trying to make is that you can
choose to interact as little or not as you like with your chosen software of
choice.
If you're interested in knowing any more, please feel free to ask and
I'll give you more info - just didn't want to spam the list with this
one post if it wasn't something you were interested in! :-)
Cheers,
Take care,
Chris Norman
On 15 Apr 2015, at 13:56, Sarah Mellor <sarah_mellor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
HI Chris,
It was lovely and interesting to read your email and I think its a
great idea to share things about ourselves. our musical backgrounds
etc. I sing mostly with backing tracks usually covers but I especially
love singing jazz and songs from the shows. I like singing sixties
and seventies to and some modern songs so there is something to appeal
to all ages. I have a demo which I hope to use to try and find an
agent so I can get more work at weddings parties etc and maybe even
clubs but I especially enjoy recording and would really like to find a
way of doing it which is accessible with guide but so far haven't had
any luck and dolphin didn't have any advice either. I love hearing
special effects things like loop peddles etc they are extremely
clever. I'm glad you included the link to your web site which I will
certainly check out. I hope you enjoy the list as I do.
Take care and best wishes.
Sarah
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